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    eek Counterweight on wet pavement?

    Hi guys. It's rainy nowadays in Auckland, and I commute on my little 250 everyday.

    I've watched a video which recommend to do counterweight on wet pavement for safety purpose. But some people says counterweight is for low speed turn. The only thing I'm worry about when its wet is lose traction. Do you guys think counterweight is the right thing to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xa33 View Post
    Hi guys. It's rainy nowadays in Auckland, and I commute on my little 250 everyday.

    I've watched a video which recommend to do counterweight on wet pavement for safety purpose. But some people says counterweight is for low speed turn. The only thing I'm worry about when its wet is lose traction. Do you guys think counterweight is the right thing to do?

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    no.I try to keep the bike more upright in the rain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xa33 View Post
    Hi guys. It's rainy nowadays in Auckland, and I commute on my little 250 everyday.

    I've watched a video which recommend to do counterweight on wet pavement for safety purpose. But some people says counterweight is for low speed turn. The only thing I'm worry about when its wet is lose traction. Do you guys think counterweight is the right thing to do?

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    I have no idea of the scenario which may need counterweighting. Not sure how counterweighting has been described to you, either. You mentioned pavement, riding your bike on that is naughty. More info on where you worry and how counterweighting has been explained would be good.

    My rule of thumb is the slippier it is the slower I go, more or less. Looking ahead, being smooth with brakes and gas, staying relaxed and looking for the grippy bit occupy my attention.

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    https://www.rideforever.co.nz/

    And we call it counter steering, counter weight is more of a drinking game, well in my circles anyway
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    Would another meaning of counterweight ing be to shift your weight to the outside footrest (or inside as the case may be)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    Would another meaning of counterweight ing be to shift your weight to the outside footrest (or inside as the case may be)?
    Yeah ..

    http://www.cape-vision.com/wayg/mrep/outside.htm

    No - I would not recommend it on a wet road - it increases the lateral pressure on the tyre - and increases the chance of it sliding out ..

    It's a good dry condition tight turn technique .

    In the wet you want the bike to be as upright as possible to reduce the lateral pressure on the tyre .
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    Just ride. You'll adapt to the conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caspernz View Post
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    And we call it counter steering, counter weight is more of a drinking game, well in my circles anyway
    I had pause for thought posting, rode my trials bike for a bit earlier in the day in a teflon paddock. Counter weighting had some resonance. Didn't want to mention the alternative....
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    Looks to me like another version of the pre-turn flick the other way to set the bike leaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caspernz View Post
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    And we call it counter steering, counter weight is more of a drinking game, well in my circles anyway
    Think he means this.
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    Back in the day we were taught to lean off the inside of the bike in the wet to keep it upright so the tyres would work better. But that might not be what you want to do with dual compound tyres.

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    I'm wondering if the OP has been given some info that relates to the "anchored push" concept that is explained on page 17 of Full Control? More discussion follows in the next few pages.

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