AT to reduce Auckland speed limits

**SaferRides** · 5th September 2018, 06:43

Auckland's 'roading crisis' may prompt speed limit drop https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/natio...eed-limit-drop

Maybe maintenance is part of the problem? It's all very well to put up shiny new advisory signs, but if the roads are in shit condition, people will still crash.

**F5 Dave** · 5th September 2018, 07:34

Take it down to walking pace.

Oh, right. It already is.

**slofox** · 5th September 2018, 07:39

Originally Posted by F5 Dave

Take it down to walking pace.

Oh, right. It already is.

All we need is the man with the red flag and the bell walking in front...

**Moi** · 5th September 2018, 08:36

Originally Posted by SaferRides

Auckland's 'roading crisis' may prompt speed limit drop https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/natio...eed-limit-drop

Maybe maintenance is part of the problem? It's all very well to put up shiny new advisory signs, but if the roads are in shit condition, people will still crash.

AT reacted within 24 hours to a report about a developing pothole in Morningside Drive - hole was in right wheel track just waiting for some unsuspecting rider... but at other times they move at the speed of a geriatric snail...

**Moi** · 5th September 2018, 08:38

Originally Posted by slofox

All we need is the man with the red flag and the bell walking in front...

That's just the 'Tron... probably something to do with cowpox...

**SaferRides** · 5th September 2018, 08:42

Originally Posted by Moi

AT reacted within 24 hours to a report about a developing pothole in Morningside Drive - hole was in right wheel track just waiting for some unsuspecting rider... but at other times they move at the speed of a geriatric snail...

I was thinking more of the rural roads, especially the old Franklin district.

**Swoop** · 5th September 2018, 11:08

I laughed at Orewa being "lowered" as you can barely get up to 40kph there at the best of times.

Sadly the retards who walk out onto the road while staring at their phones (& sadly NOT killed) are causing accidents. We know the Propaganda Ministry says "speed kills" and the obvious answer is to lower the limits to 30kph.

Who said that NZ was being deliberately dumbed down?

**Moi** · 5th September 2018, 12:08

Originally Posted by SaferRides

I was thinking more of the rural roads, especially the old Franklin district.

I'd suggest you could easily say that rural roads in both the former Franklin County and Waitemata County are suffering under both the volume of traffic and the weight of the traffic. They have been sealed, probably, in the 1960s or 70s with a quick roll of the gravel, add a bit of base course and roll that then spray with tar and throw some chip onto it... Fine for say a 100 vehicles a day, not so fine for today...

**Moi** · 5th September 2018, 12:12

Originally Posted by Swoop

I laughed at Orewa being "lowered" as you can barely get up to 40kph there at the best of times...

Isn't the speed in the town centre 30km/h?

**jasonu** · 5th September 2018, 12:16

They would be better off to ensure immigrants can actually drive to a certain standard before letting them loose on the roads. A 'read that road sign and tell me what it means' test would be good too.

**malcy25** · 5th September 2018, 12:22

Originally Posted by jasonu

They would be better off to ensure immigrants can actually drive to a certain standard before letting them loose on the roads. A 'read that road sign and tell me what it means' test would be good too.

From my experience, they are not the problem.....long term residents and born here "so I own the road" is more a problem.

**rastuscat** · 5th September 2018, 21:27

Originally Posted by jasonu

They would be better off to ensure immigrants can actually drive to a certain standard before letting them loose on the roads. A 'read that road sign and tell me what it means' test would be good too.

Migrants and tourists are over represented in crashes. They make up 10% of our crashes, despite being only 5% of our motoring population.

Which means that 90% of the crashes are caused by locals.

Solve 10% of the problem if you want. But that won't solve the 90%.

**SaferRides** · 6th September 2018, 03:10

Originally Posted by malcy25

From my experience, they are not the problem.....long term residents and born here "so I own the road" is more a problem.

I live in a part of Auckland with a high proportion of migrants. Some of their driving is annoying, like doing 30 hm/h on main roads.

But you don't see them driving a Ford Ranger through a red light with a mobile phone clamped to one ear.

**jasonu** · 6th September 2018, 07:11

Originally Posted by rastuscat

Migrants and tourists are over represented in crashes. They make up 10% of our crashes, despite being only 5% of our motoring population.

Which means that 90% of the crashes are caused by locals.

Solve 10% of the problem if you want. But that won't solve the 90%.

I was actually thinking of Auckland when I wrote that. It may not be as obvious when you are there all the time but when you visit that city once every 5 years or so like I do it really stands out.

**Moi** · 6th September 2018, 08:22

Originally Posted by SaferRides

I live in a part of Auckland with a high proportion of migrants. Some of their driving is annoying, like doing 30 hm/h on main roads.

But you don't see them driving a Ford Ranger through a red light with a mobile phone clamped to one ear.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to SaferRides again.