Road safety campaigner - 2 things come to mind...

[onearmedbandit]

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Two things stood out to me...

[Katman]

Great place to do a u turn.

[Berries]

He must be half cyborg because I don't know why anyone would film a video like that let alone post it. I have picked up all sorts of shit from the road but I never thought about getting the GoPro out.

Never thought about doing a u-turn that close to a cresting 75k corner either. Road safety campaigner he says?

[Dean]

What is most comical is him posting his “act of heroism” ie “I’m a saviour”.

Knowing that most Kiwi bikers have done this kind of act a thousand times over but not one video produced!

That’s the issue with Geoff, he has entered into the modern day influencer dilemma, whereby he has amassed such a following that he needs to feed them with this kind of theatrical/political/flavour of the month stuff compromising actual meaty content that addresses real road safety issues. It never ends well!

[onearmedbandit]

Yup great place to do a u-turn and parking nearly halfway onto the road on a cresting corner. Great safety work!

[Laava]

Plus he didn't actually remove it very far. The grass will grow around it and the mowers will just fucking whack it god* knows where.




*Word used as part of a cultural expression. Person named is entirely ficticious

[TheDemonLord]

And yet, he stopped and sorted it.

I dont like the grandstanding as much as anybody else, but he was still the person that removed the hazard.

The best way to ensure that people dont get involved in doing noble things in the community is to criticize them that they didnt do it perfectly.

I would rather live in a world were everyone picked up a hazard on the road vs one where no one did for fear of being ridiculed for various issues with their actions.

[onearmedbandit]

And yet, he stopped and sorted it.

I dont like the grandstanding as much as anybody else, but he was still the person that removed the hazard.

The best way to ensure that people dont get involved in doing noble things in the community is to criticize them that they didnt do it perfectly.

I would rather live in a world were everyone picked up a hazard on the road vs one where no one did for fear of being ridiculed for various issues with their actions.

Yup, and he could have done that without doing a risky u-turn and then parking on a crested corner. If you are going to put yourself out there as a road safety campaigner then be prepared to have your actions judged if they go contrary to your position.

[Berries]

And yet, he stopped and sorted it.

I dont like the grandstanding as much as anybody else, but he was still the person that removed the hazard.

The best way to ensure that people dont get involved in doing noble things in the community is to criticize them that they didnt do it perfectly.

I would rather live in a world were everyone picked up a hazard on the road vs one where no one did for fear of being ridiculed for various issues with their actions.

As Dean said, we have all done it. Just that none of us needed to film it and then get home and edit the film and then post it on the internet to make us look like some kind of hero. Clearly not a fixed camera either so what has he done, picked his phone up and set it to record while trying to pull over, all while giving a running commentary?

Now, I am not into conspiracies but notice that the previous ten seconds of the video is not shown? Who's to say that he didn't throw the lump of metal out the window himself just to get his weekly ten seconds of exposure?

[TheDemonLord]

As Dean said, we have all done it. Just that none of us needed to film it and then get home and edit the film and then post it on the internet to make us look like some kind of hero. Clearly not a fixed camera either so what has he done, picked his phone up and set it to record while trying to pull over, all while giving a running commentary?

I am just as annoyed at Influencers as the next person - I still side that I would rather see people inspired by the positive than see the criticism and decide not to do the right thing.

Seems to me there is some happy medium here.

Just dont ask exactly where it is

Now, I am not into conspiracies but notice that the previous ten seconds of the video is not shown? Who's to say that he didn't throw the lump of metal out the window himself just to get his weekly ten seconds of exposure?

Not outside the realm of possibility - but also not outside the realm of possibility it was just a chunk of metal in the road.

I think we should not judge too harshly, yet.

[onearmedbandit]

I have no issue with people who choose to record their good behaviour, that has no effect on me whatsoever. My only gripe with him is the actions he took in removing the piece of metal from the road. As a road safety campaigner he should’ve befn more cautious when setting his example.

[onearmedbandit]

I would rather live in a world were everyone picked up a hazard on the road vs one where no one did for fear of being ridiculed for various issues with their actions.

So, had he caused a major accident because of his parking in a dangerous position or the risky u-turn, you'd be fine with saying, "ah but his intentions were good, we shouldn't criticise him for acting recklessly"?

[F5 Dave]

Tdl rule 1.
TdL will always take the Contrary position, even in the face of reason.

Rule 2.
There will no consequence of action in TDL world.

Rule 3.
When you look to be losing an argument, quickly prepare a wall of many paragraphs and don't forget a strawman or two.

[R650R]

Although U-turns should be avoided in some places there are much worse issues to be worried about out there.
In any case there is not a danger if other motorists are
1) paying attention to the road ahead
2) travelling at such a speed that they can stop in the length of clear visible lane ahead( this is a legal req spelled out in law)
3) operating a vehicle with working brakes and tyres
4) undertaken training to increase their risk perception

Disclaimer I may not follow all the advice I prescribe

[TheDemonLord]

So, had he caused a major accident because of his parking in a dangerous position or the risky u-turn, you'd be fine with saying, "ah but his intentions were good, we shouldn't criticise him for acting recklessly"?

It is an interesting hypothetical. There is no objective answer - as much of it is weighing one risk against the other. The temporary risk of a U-Turn and parking up (at most a minute or so) vs the risk of that big chunk of metal (which probably sat in the road for much longer).

I view that the short time exposed to danger by parking and doing the U-Turn made it the lesser risk. I would also contend that parking far enough away from the hazard means a greater time of a pedestrian walking on the road (also a risk).

I am not being contrary for the sake of it - I see the point you are making, I feel it could be made better acknowledging that too many people walk by things they have the skills and capability to fix because it is neither their problem or they dont want to be criticised for doing something.

And I think that makes for a poorer world.