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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Engineering is the gold plated way to solve crashes.
    Glad you used the word "solve" instead of "prevent", since "gold standard engineering" still does not prevent crashes.
    Exhibit A: a modern motorway with all the barriers and signage... still has massive skidmarks and impact evidence at random places. Caused by: poor driving.

    Speed is an irrelevant aspect. Look at our current Indy car champion who drives quite rapidly. The road has all of the lovely safety gear, yet an accident only happens when a driver screws up.
    Quite frankly Mr Darwin could be of use thinning out the more stupid drivers on our roads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Speed is an irrelevant aspect. Look at our current Indy car champion who drives quite rapidly. The road has all of the lovely safety gear, yet an accident only happens when a driver screws up.
    Big, median separated highways are the safest roads in NZ, per km traveled. That's why they are considered to be included in the 110 kmh speed limit club.

    If everyone is going in the same direction, at the same speed, with no intersections, that reduces the chances of human error leading to a crash.

    It's when there is speed differential, when there is merging, when there is lane changing, that's when human error causes crashes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    ... human error causes crashes.
    Yup.


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    Interesting thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post

    Have you spoken to them about their priorities, or are you just happy to hit the keyboard.
    they dropped grays road after a couple of fatalities, to 60kmh, even though my understanding is both vehicles were estimated at 140km'h when crashing, then some prick pats himself on the back then looks at another road to look at cause it's an easy target for him to work at and justify his job, they did the paekak hill where now the biggest risk is constantly taking your eyes off the road to ensure you don't get busted as it's a windy road that it's real hard to judge speed, reality there's about two spots where you can actually go much faster the 60, still no passing lanes and no possibilty of getting past that crawler who slows painfully on corners, cause you can't exceed 60 on the couple of spots you can actually pass.
    the haywards will change soon, traffic will boom on it when transmission gully starts, they've down SFA to prepare for this at all.
    additionally they asked for submissions on dropping the speed, well before the final date it was noted the speed signs were already up yet taped over, they were never going to listen it was a done deal, as i said earlier, the gps maps were updated weeks and weeks ago, again a done deal.
    these chimps actually need to spend some time on the roads with a picnic basket and actually see what traffic does i reckon.
    some years ago there wasa four person fatality on centennial highway, hours later they put in a temp speed limit of eighty km's hour.
    if they'd actually gone out there and watch they would have realised that seldom did traffic exceed this at all, it's one of those roads where most drove cautiously as a lot of trucks to deal with, i say they didn't go there cause if they had they would've seen a big problem with tailgaters, and signs, don't be a fool, obey the two second rule would have surely been called for.

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    there is nothing weong with centennial highway that a big high fence on the seaward side wouldnt fix.Its the f---wits who dont look where they are going

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