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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    It's great.

    I think it's something like $54 for a full years rego.
    Do you get a discount if you can produce your gold card ... ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    It's great.

    I think it's something like $54 for a full years rego.
    Check it out for yourself ...

    http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regul...LM2938471.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    Pretty hard to argue with that logic. I have heard that netball players are more at risk of having a netball related injury.
    I heard that too ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Do you get a discount if you can produce your gold card ... ??
    Why do you keep going on about gold cards?

    I've got more than 10 years before I qualify for one.
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    Oh I must really irk you to be repeatedly proven to be a total utter moron in public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    That vintage rego thing is bullshit. They should be paying the same or more as they dont have ABS etc. And its normally old untrained guys riding them.
    Yeah, none of my bikes have ABS - but then again, none of them have a faulty side stand spring either.
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    Oh I must really irk you to be repeatedly proven to be a total utter moron in public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    That vintage rego thing is bullshit. They should be paying the same or more as they dont have ABS etc. And its normally old untrained guys riding them.
    Not sure of factual info re old untrained riders but you raise a reasonable point regarding safety electronics etc on new bikes. Car rego costs differ specifically based on similar safety features - ABS, traction control, air bags etc. However motorcycles are based on what? Age and cc rating


    I say again - a history of zero or low ACC claims (relative to motorcycle) should indeed entitle one to a decent discount off the ACC portion of their annual rego. Fuckers who fall off a lot should pay more

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    Not sure of factual info re old untrained riders but you raise a reasonable point regarding safety electronics etc on new bikes. Car rego costs differ specifically based on similar safety features - ABS, traction control, air bags etc. However motorcycles are based on what? Age and cc rating


    I say again - a history of zero or low ACC claims (relative to motorcycle) should indeed entitle one to a decent discount off the ACC portion of their annual rego. Fuckers who fall off a lot should pay more
    Exactly. Modern cars are much cheaper.
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    but once again you proved me wrong.
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    I was hit by one such driver while remaining in the view of their mirror.

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    So, under this scheme a person would do a bit of training but only be entitled to 2yrs of "discount" from the knowledge acquired? That tends to indicate some poor quality training being provided - "short term" gains, at best.

    Perhaps ACC would like to contact the insurance company of a biker, and ask them how many claims had been made by the rider? There's an easy solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    So, under this scheme a person would do a bit of training but only be entitled to 2yrs of "discount" from the knowledge acquired? That tends to indicate some poor quality training being provided - "short term" gains, at best.

    Perhaps ACC would like to contact the insurance company of a biker, and ask them how many claims had been made by the rider? There's an easy solution.
    Motorcycling is a decaying skill. Police riders who transfer to a different job but then come back know full well that it takes them time to get back into the swing of things.

    I don't disagree with a lot of the points and views on here, but it's fair to say that a lot of people who have been riding for years would not pass todays CBTA riding tests. They generally have habits that are likely to lead them to grief, sooner or later.

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    So passing the CBTA protects them from grief?

    I'm definitely not a perfect driver/rider today ... but I'm way more competent than back when I passed my tests, with a much better appreciation of how vulnerable I am.

    CBTA is just a start, a basic one at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GazzaH View Post
    So passing the CBTA protects them from grief?

    I'm definitely not a perfect driver/rider today ... but I'm way more competent than back when I passed my tests, with a much better appreciation of how vulnerable I am.

    CBTA is just a start, a basic one at that.
    CBTA is a start. Then you move on to RF.

    Nothing protects you from grief, just helps you avoid it as much as possible.
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    but once again you proved me wrong.
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    I was hit by one such driver while remaining in the view of their mirror.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GazzaH View Post
    So passing the CBTA protects them from grief?

    I'm definitely not a perfect driver/rider today ... but I'm way more competent than back when I passed my tests, with a much better appreciation of how vulnerable I am.

    CBTA is just a start, a basic one at that.
    Take a CBTA 6R ride with a friendly instructor, it ain't as basic as you might think. Them IFEs, instant fail errors, will render the test over in under 10 mins for a good number of riders. Which is what RC was referring to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    CBTA is a start. Then you move on to RF.
    The basic RF course (Bronze) is targetted to people thinking of taking either of the CBTA tests. At least when I did it, they went into things like what you should be looking at, and where you position your bike to maximise that (and then the assessors would be looking for you riding in a similar

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    Quote Originally Posted by rambaldi View Post
    The basic RF course (Bronze) is targetted to people thinking of taking either of the CBTA tests.
    Yup.
    Bronze for those going from L to R (CBTA-R)
    Silver for those going from R to F (CBTA-F)

    Gold for those on F.

    Official line is if you are a returning rider, do the Silver course.

    My advice is do the Bronze. There are things taught on that, but not repeated on the silver, that many have either forgotten, or did not know ever!
    These are riders who have been riding for over 30 years too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GazzaH View Post
    So passing the CBTA protects them from grief?

    .
    Well, yeah.....
    CBTA is Competency Based Training ASSESSMENT!

    We assess the application of the Competency Based Training they have received.
    These are Habits that are displayed. Good Habits. (Obviously the bad ones add up to Fault patterns).
    Too many faults, or a fault pattern or and Immediate failure Error results in a Non-Pass and a resit... after a recommendation to go back and listen and apply yourself on a R4E course.

    There are people who argue that they can behave themselves for an hour in front of an assessor and then do whatever they want...
    That may be so for some, but it is pretty clear that the ones I have assessed and passed, that they ride like that all the time.
    I can see quite quickly someone who is covering habits, or forcing themselves to be a good rider for assessment.

    Over all, the current crop who are coming through the new system appear to be a lot better than the riders of the past.

    I agree, that many of those who got their license back in the day (when I did) would really struggle to pass a CBTA now.....

    If you are interested, when new CBTA Assessors are under training, they call out for people to assess.
    It could be a good exercise for those who have had their licence a while to po along to a mock assessment and see how you do.
    It is free, feedback is given and you won't loose your licence... You might even learn something.

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