Race fuel in the S.I.

**Grumph** · 4th October 2018, 18:42

For those who haven't noticed, NPD, a new petroleum distributor has opened - in short order - service stations in the SI from Blenheim to Invercargill.

And they sell what they call 100Plus - a 100 octane, unleaded, non ethanol road legal fuel.

It doesn't appear to be avgas as they state it's their own blend.

But best of all - for some of us - they give a discount on presentation of the gold card. Pensioner Racing lives !!!

**FJRider** · 4th October 2018, 19:48

They have a NEW station at Lake Waihola. A 24 hour fuel availability. A huge forecourt with plenty of overhead clearance and clear views of the main highway in both directions.

**Grumph** · 4th October 2018, 20:06

Two of the three in and around Chch are new builds. Rolleston and Moorhouse Ave. I've not visited the third down Port Hills Rd yet.
The Rolleston one at the entrance to the Iport has a huge truck refuelling setup 100m down the road.

They're spending money. The SI answer to Gull who won't come down here.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 4th October 2018, 20:49

I was thinking about this today as it happens. If my bike runs perfectly well on liquid gold (248.9 cpl I noticed on the way home) why would I want or use higher octane fuel - doesnt my engine need to "need" the extra oomph? Like because it has higher compression or hotrod valve timing (whatever that might be)... someone will know.

**onearmedbandit** · 4th October 2018, 21:14

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

I was thinking about this today as it happens. If my bike runs perfectly well on liquid gold (248.9 cpl I noticed on the way home) why would I want or use higher octane fuel - doesnt my engine need to "need" the extra oomph? Like because it has higher compression or hotrod valve timing (whatever that might be)... someone will know.

Pretty much this. Sometimes there are slight economy improvements but unless your engine is tuned for it there are no power gains to be had.

**jasonu** · 5th October 2018, 05:12

Originally Posted by Grumph

But best of all - for some of us - they give a discount on presentation of the gold card. Pensioner Racing lives !!!

Old people get all the breaks.

**Grumph** · 5th October 2018, 06:01

Originally Posted by jasonu

Old people get all the breaks.

Only when we fall over....

**sidecar bob** · 5th October 2018, 08:21

Might be worth getting that stuff tested prior to a superbike competitor failing a fuel test at nationals like has happened in recent years with high octane pump gas.

**Grumph** · 5th October 2018, 08:28

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

Might be worth getting that stuff tested prior to a superbike competitor failing a fuel test at nationals like has happened in recent years with high octane pump gas.

Can be done. If it hasn't been done at a MCI day, the usual CAMS scrutineer for the SCF doubles as the tech steward for the nationals. Should have the fuel testing gear with him.

edit - and his comments on those who were trying to pass E80 off as E15 pump fuel were amusing to listen to....

**sidecar bob** · 5th October 2018, 08:50

Originally Posted by Grumph

Can be done. If it hasn't been done at a MCI day, the usual CAMS scrutineer for the SCF doubles as the tech steward for the nationals. Should have the fuel testing gear with him.

edit - and his comments on those who were trying to pass E80 off as E15 pump fuel were amusing to listen to....

Testing would be greatly appreciated. If you could post the results up here sometime I will make sure it gets on to other media before the Nats kick off.

**Autech** · 5th October 2018, 10:39

Originally Posted by Grumph

Can be done. If it hasn't been done at a MCI day, the usual CAMS scrutineer for the SCF doubles as the tech steward for the nationals. Should have the fuel testing gear with him.

Fuel testing gear? Lame, here I was imagining some old timer drinking it and making a judgement...

**Grumph** · 5th October 2018, 11:14

Originally Posted by Autech

Fuel testing gear? Lame, here I was imagining some old timer drinking it and making a judgement...

You're too young to have seen me testing Methanol brews for water content back in the day.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 5th October 2018, 12:10

Originally Posted by Grumph

You're too young to have seen me testing Methanol brews for water content back in the day.

did it involve an open flame and the phrase "Hold my beer, I've got this"?

**WALRUS** · 5th October 2018, 12:16

Is Avgas still allowed in racing over in NZ?

MA has been working on writing it out of our supp regs.

**husaberg** · 5th October 2018, 12:18

Originally Posted by Grumph

Can be done. If it hasn't been done at a MCI day, the usual CAMS scrutineer for the SCF doubles as the tech steward for the nationals. Should have the fuel testing gear with him.

edit - and his comments on those who were trying to pass E80 off as E15 pump fuel were amusing to listen to....

The MDS should state the fuel make up.
Seeing as its low lead and no ethanol
I suspect its pushing high in toluene.