I really want to punch this guy in the face....

[sidecar bob]

it shouldnt surprise me, i guess, that you guys do not understand etymology of words:


Whilst the word to which you refer once was used without racism, it now is racist... The word Pakeha has NEVER meant anything racist, according to experts. Some people might use it in a bad way, but it is not generally thought of, in common use as racist. In fact, this is the first bunch of people I've heard of in a long time who think it is.

Its a bit of a laugh really... welcome to 1979.

Well I think it's racist, but I guess that doesn't count, because I'm essentially white, which can be a real set back most of the time.
Can't I have an opinion on it or be allowed to be offended without being mocked?
That makes you an intolerant racist doesn't it?
Try spelling Wanganui wrong to a people that didn't even have a written language.

[Graystone]

its not.. actually.
It's meaning is, effectively "those pale skinned people who came on a boat", or nowadays "anyone not a Maori". It is no more offensive than you calling someone from Australia an Australian.. or calling someone a tourist, or anything else. It is only offensive if it is used in an offensive context, but that is the same for any word describing something.

I didn't come on a boat. So why do I get the nowadays version? The more accurate comparison would be to call someone whose ancestors were not from NZ, a foreigner; which might be a little offensive to 3rd gen NZ asians do you think?

[nodrog:Me]

it shouldnt surprise me, i guess, that you guys do not understand etymology of words:


Whilst the word to which you refer once was used without racism, it now is racist... The word Pakeha has NEVER meant anything racist, according to experts. Some people might use it in a bad way, but it is not generally thought of, in common use as racist. In fact, this is the first bunch of people I've heard of in a long time who think it is.

Its a bit of a laugh really... welcome to 1979.

You wanked on about where words came from, nigger comes from niger. And I bet the guys that first used it weren't being racist either, in fact they may have even used it to name a country.

But hey I get it, only the words you dont like are racist.

P.s. having a gaytime used to mean eating an ice cream, but some cunts have ruined that now too.

[jasonu]

Yes. And Nigger just means black.

I call plenty of white fullas nigga.

[seattle smitty]

Without commenting specifically on anything that has been said so far, I hope you Kiwis (of any ancestry or whatever) will NOT go the way of my country, in which political/social correctness has come to such an extreme that people have gotten very thin-skinned and take offence at anything that they imagine can be interpreted as a possible slur, whether intended or not. Certainly one can find a (fairly small) number of genuine unreconstructed racists, sexists, homophobes, xenophobes, and such, and they deserve to be scorned. But far more often, the "offender" has had a momentary brain fade, a moment of clumsiness, or is genuinely socially inept (a problem for a lot of us, related to shyness, and seemingly inborn), or was trying to make a joke. Unless and until you are sure the offender is intentionally malicious, consider these other possibilities and cut the guy a little slack. But that doesn't happen here. Especially on college campuses, and especially among younger generations, people have become hypersenitive to imagined slights. Indeed, claims to have been disrespected and worse seem to be a badge of honor in a country which has come to a point where victimhood has become a status symbol . . . often with legal and political support. Where historical racism, and the related isms, was despicable and is embarrassing even to those of us who were never part of it, today's exquisite hypersensitivity to insult and bragging about victimhood is pathetic, something for a society of weaklings.

[nodrog:Me]

I call plenty of white fullas nigga.

That's racist.

[Pound]

Do I care about being called Pakeha?

No.

But then, I don't think people should get all bent out of shape when called names.

I do, however, get annoyed at a certain group who would crucify someone at a moments notice, for using an incorrect/improper/'offensive' terms if they come from one perceived 'oppressive' group to one perceived 'victim' group - who then proceed to defend prejudicial from their preferred 'victim' group...

Oh don't get me wrong, I've never, and never will, get offended at anything anybody calls me. (I'm half Chinese, born to a Chinese mum, but look like a native kiwi, what ever that is these days)

Call me a cracker/snowman/whitey/white face/Pakeha/white man/ghosty/pasty white dude/white devil, and I'll just laugh.

I honestly don't care, but the double standard if I ever said anything "race related" to anybody other than a white man (racist) kind of irks me somewhat....

[jasonu]

Without commenting specifically on anything that has been said so far, I hope you Kiwis (of any ancestry or whatever) will NOT go the way of my country, in which political/social correctness has come to such an extreme that people have gotten very thin-skinned and take offence at anything that they imagine can be interpreted as a possible slur, whether intended or not. Certainly one can find a (fairly small) number of genuine unreconstructed racists, sexists, homophobes, xenophobes, and such, and they deserve to be scorned. But far more often, the "offender" has had a momentary brain fade, a moment of clumsiness, or is genuinely socially inept (a problem for a lot of us, related to shyness, and seemingly inborn), or was trying to make a joke. Unless and until you are sure the offender is intentionally malicious, consider these other possibilities and cut the guy a little slack. But that doesn't happen here. Especially on college campuses, and especially among younger generations, people have become hypersenitive to imagined slights. Indeed, claims to have been disrespected and worse seem to be a badge of honor in a country which has come to a point where victimhood has become a status symbol . . . often with legal and political support. Where historical racism, and the related isms, was despicable and is embarrassing even to those of us who were never part of it, today's exquisite hypersensitivity to insult and bragging about victimhood is pathetic, something for a society of weaklings.

Mate NZ is just as if not more pc than the states. It’s actually quite painful.

[jasonu]

I always thought the word palagi was coconut for white pig.

[oldrider]

I always thought the word palagi was coconut for white pig.

I think it is pronounced palangi can't remember how it is spelt though. - Just another innocent word like pakeha or cunt or whatever? All depends on the utterance.

[sidecar bob]

Although I was born in North Island NZ, there's a member on there that randomly posts me red rep, always at completely harmless posts that are in no way offensive to anyone, or ever directd at him, I assume it's a him.
They usually go something like " I hope you choke on a clog & die you Dutch cunt" what the fuck? A clog is not a food group & it would be most unusual to even get one close to your mouth. A Frickandel or Oliebollen I could understand.
I really can't fathom it, but hey, he gets to stroke his cock for a minute or two & somehow feel superior & I really couldn't care less. I've tried to nut it out with him/her, but they're not really talking.
But yeah, racism is his immediate go to, regardless of wether it makes him right or wrong.
I hope he doesn't ever call me a Pakeha, now that would really wind me up.

[nodrog:Me]

Although I was born in North Island NZ, there's a member on there that randomly posts me red rep, always at completely harmless posts that are in no way offensive to anyone, or ever directd at him, I assume it's a him.
They usually go something like " I hope you choke on a clog & die you Dutch cunt"
I really can't fathom it, but hey, he gets to stroke his cock for a minute or two & somehow feel superior & I really couldn't care less. I've tried to nut it out with him/her, but they're not really talking.
But yeah, racism is his immediate go to, regardless of wether it makes him right or wrong.
I hope he doesn't ever call me a Pakeha, now that would really wind me up.

It's only racist if you are black, or muslim, or some kind of ease.

[oldrider]

Although I was born in North Island NZ, there's a member on there that randomly posts me red rep, always at completely harmless posts that are in no way offensive to anyone, or ever directd at him, I assume it's a him.
They usually go something like " I hope you choke on a clog & die you Dutch cunt" what the fuck? A clog is not a food group.
I really can't fathom it, but hey, he gets to stroke his cock for a minute or two & somehow feel superior & I really couldn't care less. I've tried to nut it out with him/her, but they're not really talking.
But yeah, racism is his immediate go to, regardless of wether it makes him right or wrong.
I hope he doesn't ever call me a Pakeha, now that would really wind me up.

Sidecar bob? - sounds Dutch? - I thought everybody knew that! - my bad.

[BadSarah]

Try spelling Wanganui wrong to a people that didn't even have a written language.

Wanganui was originally spelt the way it sounds, but now we have people calling the place "funganui". Something that pisses me off no end when I hear it in the New Zealand media (friggin TV journalists). It should never have been changed.
It is pronounced a little like where, why or what with the "wh" aspirated
https://youtu.be/E8DAqCScpyE

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[Laava]

Although I was born in North Island NZ, there's a member on there that randomly posts me red rep, always at completely harmless posts that are in no way offensive to anyone, or ever directd at him, I assume it's a him.
They usually go something like " I hope you choke on a clog & die you Dutch cunt" what the fuck? A clog is not a food group & it would be most unusual to even get one close to your mouth. A Frickandel or Oliebollen I could understand.
I really can't fathom it, but hey, he gets to stroke his cock for a minute or two & somehow feel superior & I really couldn't care less. I've tried to nut it out with him/her, but they're not really talking.
But yeah, racism is his immediate go to, regardless of wether it makes him right or wrong.
I hope he doesn't ever call me a Pakeha, now that would really wind me up.

Name him/her. We haven't had a good witch hunt for a while now...