Lime Scooters

**jasonu** · 15th November 2018, 08:18

Originally Posted by rastuscat

I repeat my original thoughts. It's not the vehicle that's the problem. It's the way it's used.

Same thing can be said about firearms.

**Voltaire** · 15th November 2018, 09:40

Question for Rastus,

I was and still are led to believe you can't ride a a bicycle on the footpath.

Road Code seems to agree.

If I tape a list of T's and C's to the frame and tick agreed to wearing a helmet can I ride around without one confident that Plod will not ping me?

**rastuscat** · 15th November 2018, 11:40

Originally Posted by Voltaire

Question for Rastus,

I was and still are led to believe you can't ride a a bicycle on the footpath.

Road Code seems to agree.

If I tape a list of T's and C's to the frame and tick agreed to wearing a helmet can I ride around without one confident that Plod will not ping me?

With the occasional exception (posties), kids on bikes with 10 inch wheels or less, it's against the rules to ride a bicycle on a footpath. So says the Land Transport (Road User) Rule 2004, Section 11.11

Section 11.1 deals with the obligations of the users of mobility devices, and wheeled recreational devices. Basically it says don't ride like a dick.

There are rules around this stuff, just that nobody ever cares to actually read them.

**rambaldi** · 15th November 2018, 11:44

Originally Posted by pritch

That Guardian article seems very optimistic as to the speed of the things which is not helpful to informed discussion. 65KPH is several times the speeds I've seen mentioned previously, but on an urban footpath would no doubt be a thrilling ride.

Yeah, there is a steepish hill hereabout which I walk up for exercise. Many moons ago the local lads used to run carts down it. They eventually figured that if they built the carts with bicycle wheels they'd go much faster. Engines were a natural progression but then they turned fifteen and bought motorcycles.

One of them told me he once thought he could beat the railcar to the local crossing, he can remember flying through the air looking down at the passengers in the railcar looking up at him. He suffered a sprained ankle.

From what I have read else where, the picture in the article is misleading. It was one of those scooters that are similar style but have a seat, and I guess more batteries under it.

**F5 Dave** · 15th November 2018, 12:13

Originally Posted by pritch

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Yeah, there is a steepish hill hereabout which I walk up for exercise. Many moons ago the local lads used to run carts down it. They eventually figured that if they built the carts with bicycle wheels they'd go much faster. Engines were a natural progression but then they turned fifteen and bought motorcycles.

One of them told me he once thought he could beat the railcar to the local crossing, he can remember flying through the air looking down at the passengers in the railcar looking up at him. He suffered a sprained ankle.

Uh-huh. So does that ankle still trouble you on those walks occasionally?

**Swoop** · 15th November 2018, 14:54

Originally Posted by rastuscat

There are rules around this stuff, just that nobody ever cares to actually read them.

I'm always entertained by people who have reversed into diagonal parking on a road (seeing more of this recently) and a few people who park against the traffic flow - driver's door against the kerb.
They must really like assisting police getting their ticket book emptied as quickly as possible.

**rastuscat** · 15th November 2018, 16:42

My main amusement comes from people who think the road code is the law.

**Autech** · 15th November 2018, 17:02

Originally Posted by rastuscat

My main amusement comes from people who think the road code is the law.

I AM THE LAWWWW!

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**sidecar bob** · 15th November 2018, 18:11

Originally Posted by rastuscat

My main amusement comes from people who think the road code is the law.

Is it somehow misleading?

**Voltaire** · 15th November 2018, 18:18

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

Is it somehow misleading?

Maybe like the Haynes manual is to the Factory one...?

**Grumph** · 15th November 2018, 19:07

Originally Posted by Voltaire

Maybe like the Haynes manual is to the Factory one...?

I asked a pretty vocal member of the American Christian Right which he considered more accurate - the bible or factory workshop manuals.
Still haven't had an answer...

Factory manuals are only their opinion as to how the product should go together....

**rastuscat** · 15th November 2018, 20:47

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

Is it somehow misleading?

What's the legally required following distance at 50 kmh?

Law says 20 metres, Road Code suggests 27.6 metres.

Only one is the law. The Road Code is a very good collection of suggested practices based on the law. But it ain't the law.