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    Lime Scooters

    Saw something today which I thought might give the hive mind a workout....

    Turning off Riccarton road at lights this morning, waiting for a stream of traffic to pass. On the back of the stream was a lime scooter - tapped out, on the road, no helmet. Doing an impressive speed I have to say.
    He'd obviously lost the slipstream of the group of cars as the gap was about 100 meters at that point. Big enough for me to get across anyway.

    I wondered about the consequences of hitting him...On the roadway, no rego, probably no licence, definitely no insurance.

    Does he have any more rights than a pedestrian ? Is he legally a cyclist ?

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    Since lime scroters are also on the pavement, should they be on the road?

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    If the lime scooter was being ridden by a vaping hipster with an oiled beard, does it count as man slaughter or a public service?

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    FFS. If you are dumb enough to turn across the path of an oncoming Lime scroter and you hit it and kill the hipster, you'd still get charged.

    Whether he should be there or not is still open to examination, but if you kill someone by carelessly using a vehicle, you're in the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    FFS. If you are dumb enough to turn across the path of an oncoming Lime scroter and you hit it and kill the hipster, you'd still get charged.

    Whether he should be there or not is still open to examination, but if you kill someone by carelessly using a vehicle, you're in the frame.
    Yes, I appreciated that at the time. Plenty of room to get across. But I wanted to know if these road lice had rights - and if so, equivalent to what ?

    And while it appears they can be made to go surprisingly quickly, does anyone know what the brakes are like on the bloody things. I'd suspect someone is going to be killed as a suicide by carelessly using a vehicle....

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    I wonder if people had the same sort of discussions -obviously not online tapping away on a smartphone - back in the days when the first bicycles turned up on the roads. Or god forbid, the first motorcycles. I can almost hear them saying "Those motorcycles, they don't even have four wheels. Do those road lice even have rights?"

    Did I mention I dislike polarizations? Why can't we at least try and share the space we have without calling anyone some insect name?

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    They are not cycles and cannot legally use a cycleway.... apparently. Hence the fact helmets are "Recommended" not compulsory. They do 27kph according to some reports and 22kph according to others.

    I was really looking forward to using one last saturday after I came out of an event. Turns out they go home to roost at 11pm. I was quite looking forward to using one ....... possibly just as well as I was half cut and wearing a tux. As you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeemerBenny View Post

    Did I mention I dislike polarizations? Why can't we at least try and share the space we have without calling anyone some insect name?

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    I also dislike polarization. Except in sunglasses.

    Right up there with extremism.

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    All over Christchurch. Generally the ones I am seeing are behaving. Apart from the git at lunchtime today fating along at speed through the Tower Junction car park. He was asking to be knocked off by a reversing car or similar.

    I may need to experience one soon.

    I have noticed a row of them parked outside The Black Horse on Lincoln Road frequently.

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    If electric bicycles are not classed as "Motor Vehicles" ... Should not then ... the solely electric Cars be NOT classed as motor vehicles either ... ???

    Or have I got it wrong ... again ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    I also dislike polarization. Except in sunglasses.

    Right up there with extremism.
    Would not ... having the preferred method of transport of motorcyclists being motorcycles ... and have riding/operating/instructing with them as your occupation ... be also described as a form of polarization ...

    Or are motorcycles NOT your preferred method of transport/occupation .. ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    If electric bicycles are not classed as "Motor Vehicles" ... Should not then ... the solely electric Cars be NOT classed as motor vehicles either ... ???

    Or have I got it wrong ... again ...
    they are motor vehicles I think but would probably be mopeds. They definitely aren't bikes. And electric cars are clearly cars because, well, cars. the hint is in the name
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    they are motor vehicles I think but would probably be mopeds. They definitely aren't bikes. And electric cars are clearly cars because, well, cars. the hint is in the name
    And believe it or not - cars were electric before being petrol driven...

    Ok, I'll refrain from polarising rhetoric. You'll all have your own experiences with them soon enough. I'll be patient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    If electric bicycles are not classed as "Motor Vehicles" ... Should not then ... the solely electric Cars be NOT classed as motor vehicles either ... ???

    Or have I got it wrong ... again ...
    I'm guessing your average electric car is over 300w.

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    Well bugger me..... From the above link.

    E-scooters can be used on the footpath or the road – except in designated cycle lanes that are part of the road (which were designed for the sole use of cyclists).

    On the footpath the user must:

    operate the device in a careful and considerate manner
    operate the device at a speed that does not put other footpath users at risk
    give way to both pedestrians and drivers of mobility devices.
    On the road, e-scooters must be operated as near as practicable to the edge of the roadway.

    A helmet is not legally required to be worn when using an e-scooter, but is recommended.
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