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    Happy Ending

    To all you nay sayers in regard to Police, ACC and Ride Forever. Try putting a cynical spin on this one.

    True story.

    Guy rides his litre sports bike in a cycle lane. Cops writes him a ticket, but with compliance. Guy attends a Ride Forever course, Police cancel the ticket.

    Happy ending. The rider hadn't known it was illegal for him to ride in a cycle lane. That was one thing he learned from the experience. He was also surprised at what he learned on the course.

    I love happy endings.

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    easy, what was the cop doing in the cycle lane to be able to give him a ticket, you did put the challenge out there lol. but seriously those courses are good for increasing awareness and learning some new techniques.


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    must be easier to ticket a safer ride in a lane thats never used over someone on a cellphone weaving in and out of their lane on the motorway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scubbo View Post
    must be easier to ticket a safer ride in a lane thats never used over someone on a cellphone weaving in and out of their lane on the motorway
    Congratulations. You win the cynicism for beginners award.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Congratulations. You win the cynicism for beginners award.
    Just out of curiosity, would a similar course of action also be applied to
    the motorist using a cellphone in the car on the motorway (i.e. cancel
    the fine if attended a Defensive Driving course) ?

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    This might be a stupid question, but if it's illegal to ride in the cycle lane is it illegal to stop in the cycle green area at the front of traffic at traffic lights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Congratulations. You win the cynicism for beginners award.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fresh Oats View Post
    This might be a stupid question, but if it's illegal to ride in the cycle lane is it illegal to stop in the cycle green area at the front of traffic at traffic lights?
    Yes, we had this discussion a couple months ago, not sure which thread meandered there though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fresh Oats View Post
    This might be a stupid question, but if it's illegal to ride in the cycle lane is it illegal to stop in the cycle green area at the front of traffic at traffic lights?
    Those areas are called advanced stop boxes.

    And yes, it's illegal to stop a motor vehicle in them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fresh Oats View Post
    This might be a stupid question, but if it's illegal to ride in the cycle lane is it illegal to stop in the cycle green area at the front of traffic at traffic lights?
    Short answer... no. Its perfectly legal to stop in any vehicle in the advanced stop box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Those areas are called advanced stop boxes.

    And yes, it's illegal to stop a motor vehicle in them.
    How easily you forget...
    The previous Road Policing Manager for Wellington (Snr. Sgt. Richard Hocken now retired) looked into this matter and decided that the Advanced Stop Boxes could not be enforced.

    The Stop box is not a cycle lane so legislation preventing vehicles from entering a cycle lane do not apply.

    The limit line or beginning of the intersection it at the front of the ASB so legislation around entering an intersection does not apply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    How easily you forget...
    On a tangent, Richard is a personal friend. We just spent a week being motorcycle marshalls on the Cycle Tour of Southland. I managed to indulge both passions for a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    On a tangent, Richard is a personal friend. We just spent a week being motorcycle marshalls on the Cycle Tour of Southland. I managed to indulge both passions for a week.
    Soooo.....nepotism!
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    Also, even if the ASB's were deemed 'cycle lanes' then you are allowed to travel up to 50m if;

    A motor vehicle driver may drive within a cycle lane if:

    The purpose is to cross the cycle lane to make a turn, leave a road, enter a marked lane or line of traffic from the side of the road or another marked lane, or to park in a place clear of a special vehicle lane; or to enter a stopping place or loading zone to pick up or drop off passengers or a load; and
    The driver drives in the lane for the minimum length necessary to complete the manoeuvre and for no more than a maximum length of 50m; and
    The driver gives way to vehicles entitled to use the lane (ie cyclists).

    which, could be argued, would be the result of moving through the intersection into the marked lane on the otherside of the traffic lights / intersection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Those areas are called advanced stop boxes.

    And yes, it's illegal to stop a motor vehicle in them.
    As an aside ... those advanced stop boxes are often staggered at many intersections. This is to allow (as you probably already know) heavy/long vehicles (like buses and trucks) to navigate easier through city centers. Those that park in those spots risk getting clobbered by said long vehicles ... or move out of their way. That is usually easier said than done for cars ...

    Personally ... I'm quite happy to see cyclists first in the firing line for all vehicles taking the shortcut through intersections (but that's just me).

    I guess everyone's favorite vehicle have their downside ...
    Sweat wipes off. Road-rash doesn't.

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