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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    There's hope for you yet.

    There's almost 4 million vehicles on NZ roads, if each of them goes for a daily drive and passes just 0.1% of the others on the road without incident then that's 16,000,000,000 potential accidents.

    And that's just vehicle vs vehicle accidents, if you include potential accidents involving landscape there's almost limitless opportunities.

    Isn't it more rational to appreciate and acknowledge that the chance of an accident has been managed to such a tiny degree for each of those drivers than to simply point at the number of failures, (which continue to diminish in spite of the huge growth in them numbers up there) and claim that the sky is falling?
    And if that's all it entailed I wouldn't give a fuck how many people killed themselves through acts of their own stupidity.

    But your argument falls to pieces when those acts of stupidity negatively impact on the well-being of innocent people caught up in those acts of stupidity - and when those in power use statistics to impose further restrictions and penalties on those of us who aren't prone to indulging in acts of stupidity.
    Quote Originally Posted by husaberk View Post
    Oh I must really irk you to be repeatedly proven to be a total utter moron in public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    :Yesterday I was north on Johns Rod. It's beautifully engineered
    sorry, this is KB, someone had to point it out

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    Quote Originally Posted by russd7 View Post
    sorry, this is KB, someone had to point it out
    You've met Jon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    You've met Jon?
    which one,

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Yesterday I was north on Johns Rod, going through the Harewood Road roundabout. It's a beautifully engineered road, plenty of room in both lanes each way, two lanes on the roundabout.

    Those roundabouts are what makes your statement incorrect, they slow traffic down and bottleneck it
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    Even BP would shy away from cleaning up a sidecar oil spill.
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    Send Lawyers, guns and money, the shit has hit the fan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    Those roundabouts are what makes your statement incorrect, they slow traffic down and bottleneck it
    Agree - and further North, it's a compromised layout due to existing turnoffs. Which should have been bulldozed...
    Reason is a tool - remember where you left it..... The late, great, John Clarke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    Agree - and further North, it's a compromised layout due to existing turnoffs. Which should have been bulldozed...
    Cool. No access to the Groynes, or any of the side roads. You guys are awesome at understanding compromise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Cool. No access to the Groynes, or any of the side roads. You guys are awesome at understanding compromise.
    Well back south around the Crematorium, they've sorted it. Not well IMO, but usable.

    Then you look at what's being built around Rolleston...and wonder about access to businesses.
    Reason is a tool - remember where you left it..... The late, great, John Clarke

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Cool. No access to the Groynes, or any of the side roads. You guys are awesome at understanding compromise.
    Have you ever heard of overbridges or underpasses? it would be a cost thing
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    Even BP would shy away from cleaning up a sidecar oil spill.
    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Zevon
    Send Lawyers, guns and money, the shit has hit the fan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    Have you ever heard of overbridges or underpasses? it would be a cost thing
    That's the thing. Engineering is the most expensive traffic solution. Every project involves the reality that things cost money.

    Of course, in the virtual world, flyovers are free.

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