Interesting comment by junior copper

**Grizz** · 14th October 2005, 17:57

I was listening to the police channel in the cage on the way home, and was interested in some comments made by a a junior copper.

He asked if any units ahead of him could keep an eye out for a bike, he said that whilst he didn't see the bike do anything illegal he lost sight of him so he must be lane splitting.

When asked for a description he gave a partial reg., and then said that it was a late model bike, when pressed for further details he said it was a late model, you know "like the type that doesn't stop for us". "The ones with the LED's on the tail light".

Then another copper piped up with words to the effect of "Gotta be careful with the reg. these guys can use devices to flip over the numbers".

I don't have any issues with the Police, and for the most I reckon they do an excellent job, but these comments surprised me a little.

Glad I don't have LED's, maybe this makes me a less of a target?

**FROSTY:Me** · 14th October 2005, 18:02

hey dude--i diddnt realise you lived so close --shit--hope it wasnt me

**Sparky Bills** · 14th October 2005, 18:10

come on people! WHO WAS IT????

Giving us good bikers a bad name!

**Grizz** · 14th October 2005, 18:10

Originally Posted by FROSTY

hey dude--i diddnt realise you lived so close --shit--hope it wasnt me

Heya Frosty, I doubt it was you mate, unless your zimmerframe has LED's on its ass

**Paul in NZ** · 14th October 2005, 18:32

Oh FFS...

Has anyone ever seen a device for flipping over the plates... (what, 1 per million bikes?) Maybe these guys watch too many movies? No.. Hang on, aint seen any there either?

Perhaps this guy should be patrolling the sewers for white alligators...

**Patrick** · 14th October 2005, 18:36

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

Oh FFS...

Has anyone ever seen a device for flipping over the plates... (what, 1 per million bikes?) Maybe these guys watch too many movies? No.. Hang on, aint seen any there either?

Perhaps this guy should be patrolling the sewers for white alligators...

There was a thread just a few weeks ago on KB just about this exact thing...someone reckoned they could make one even! Unsure about the led lights tho...probably thought he was on to WINJA

**sAsLEX** · 14th October 2005, 18:44

i did some splitting at the lights on the way home tonight, across the intersection at the red light was a copper(s) in a ute, on the green i took off normal fast and had a squizz in the lux and he was looking straight back at me on the radio

pull on to the motorway at fanshaw and one of the HP utes pulls out a bit infront of me from his possie on the side of the road, so no splitting foe me on the way home stuck about 500m off his tail and gave him/she no excuse

**FROSTY:Me** · 14th October 2005, 18:48

Originally Posted by NAK1D

Heya Frosty, I doubt it was you mate, unless your zimmerframe has LED's on its ass

well as a matter of fact..........

**Magua** · 14th October 2005, 22:47

There was a Suzuki across on tardme some time ago with a revolving number plate.

**Lou Girardin** · 17th October 2005, 13:42

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

i did some splitting at the lights on the way home tonight, across the intersection at the red light was a copper(s) in a ute, on the green i took off normal fast and had a squizz in the lux and he was looking straight back at me on the radio

pull on to the motorway at fanshaw and one of the HP utes pulls out a bit infront of me from his possie on the side of the road, so no splitting foe me on the way home stuck about 500m off his tail and gave him/she no excuse

The Utes are motorway support - very limited powers, which don't include tickets for lane splitting.

**Speedracer** · 15th November 2005, 13:41

I was under the impression lane splitting was legal - you are passing on the right effectively. I know passing on the left isn't koshier (like what scooters in particular seem to do in 50 zones) but I heard it was ok if the traffic is stopped.

Otherwise is it legal for cagers to share lanes with scooters when overtaking?

I also saw an ad on trademe a year or two ago, for a bike that apparently had something that flipped the number plate up. (I seem to recall the guy mentioned that you pulled on a handle which presumably had a piece of string or wire going to the hinged numberplate).

**vifferman** · 15th November 2005, 13:44

Originally Posted by Speedracer

I also saw an ad on trademe a year or two ago, for a bike that apparently had something that flipped the number plate up. (I seem to recall the guy mentioned that you pulled on a handle which presumably had a piece of string or wire going to the hinged numberplate).

I rode with two guys in Tauranga that had made up those - they used a choke cable or summat.

**Sniper** · 15th November 2005, 13:47

Originally Posted by Speedracer

I was under the impression lane splitting was legal - you are passing on the right effectively. I know passing on the left isn't koshier (like what scooters in particular seem to do in 50 zones) but I heard it was ok if the traffic is stopped.

Otherwise is it legal for cagers to share lanes with scooters when overtaking?

I also saw an ad on trademe a year or two ago, for a bike that apparently had something that flipped the number plate up. (I seem to recall the guy mentioned that you pulled on a handle which presumably had a piece of string or wire going to the hinged numberplate).

There have been quite a few debates on the legality of lane splitting. To the common sense its ok because you are passing on the right, same as you would when overtaking on the main road.

Its a very grey area with lots of points, but I still think (I could be wrong) that it is illegal.

**MSTRS:Me** · 15th November 2005, 14:35

Originally Posted by Sniper

There have been quite a few debates on the legality of lane splitting. To the common sense its ok because you are passing on the right, same as you would when overtaking on the main road.

Its a very grey area with lots of points, but I still think (I could be wrong) that it is illegal.

After all the threads about splitting, you still think it's a grey area. It has been well discussed & cop-inputted. It is legal under certain circumstances. It is considered as overtaking but must be within the same lane & to the right of the vehicle being overtaken, with a speed differential of under 20kph. IIRC of course.

**Sniper** · 15th November 2005, 19:24

Originally Posted by MSTRS

After all the threads about splitting, you still think it's a grey area. It has been well discussed & cop-inputted. It is legal under certain circumstances. It is considered as overtaking but must be within the same lane & to the right of the vehicle being overtaken, with a speed differential of under 20kph. IIRC of course.

Its a grey area for me just because of all the varied opinions