Bike with no Vin or Chassis number

[Roberto]

Hi to all. help please. I have been trying to get some advise from transport Agency or VTNZ with no defenitive answer. Here the situation: the seller of a vespa cannot send me the vin nor the chassis number of the vespa that I a would like to purchase. The picture he sent where the vin normally should be has no numbers stamped. The current number plate is not recognised by the VTNZ nor transport Agency. The bike is not registered. Owner can not prove that vespa has never been registered.
Question: has anyone been in this situation and managed to re register a bike?

Thanks

[AllanB]

Provided the vehicle is not stolen, don't the buggers just produce a new VIN plate and rivet it to the machine?

If you do a custom build trike or say Shelby Cobra replica kit or Lotus 7 you are starting without a VIN (though the engine generally has a number stamped on it).

Additionally if the rego expired years back my understanding is they re VIN it anyway (new plate).

[FJRider]

They will have a chassis number and an engine number ... unless one (or both)have been ground off. There is usually only one reason for that and it's not a good one.

However ... Have a read of this ...

http://www.vespa.name/vin-number

[Moi]

Have spoken to a friend who is a Vespa owner from way back... first Vespa was bought in 1968.

He suggests you get this information:
1. Model. For example, is it a 50S or a SS90 or 180SS?
2. Year. Any evidence of year?
3. Number plate / licence label [rego label] on the scooter
4. Any evidence it was NZ assembled? Seat on NZ assembled is a foam rubber squab inside the seat base [no springs] as opposed to the spring base like a bed wire woven base - Italian built were all with a spring base

The important point with NZ assembly of Vespas in the 1960s is that they were registered with only the engine number as the link between the scooter and the registration - they did not have frame [chassis] numbers.

If it's a 1960s/1970s NZ assembled Vespa it will have no VIN or chassis number on the machine.

[Murray]

just step away. not worth the hassle

[Voltaire]

If its over 30 years old the VCC can assist but its fair bit of running around, paperwork and grovelling.

If newer and you can buy a registered one easily, what Murray said.

[F5 Dave]

Make another joke
While they hang another rope
So lonely
Push him to the dirt
‘Til the words don’t hurt
Can you hear me?
No ones gonna cry
On the very day you die



I hope that helps