whats your thoughts on the CGT

[husaberg]

Meh, you're a self confessed radical socialist, I'd be worried if you agreed with me on anything.

Really where have i ever mentioned i was "radical or a radical socialist" are you sure that wasn't in your rather vivid imagination?

Yeah your idea of "clear" is as dodgy as the rest of your logic.

It's entirely reasonable to consider someone parroting radical socialist dogma to be a radical socialist.

The fact that you deny that just demonstrates that you're short of the credibility to maintain that it's your opinion that's "real".

sell confessed does no mean your opinion of someone else, no mater how you try and justify it. You are full of crap.
Selling as cant even fess up to this untruth you posted,why would anyone ever believe anything you say, As you clearly have no credibility.
ps adding more false accusations that i have denied something isnt helping your case either, you seem to be becoming further detached from reality, with each post.

[jasonu]

Bummer eh... Shame we can't tax the poor more.

Shame a lot of the poor are that way because they can't be fucked working or live up norf where there are hardly any jobs. Sucking from the welfare teat while sitting on the couch playing spaceys and smoking dak is the chosen life style of way too many potential tax payers.

[mashman]

Shame a lot of the poor are that way because they can't be fucked working or live up norf where there are hardly any jobs. Sucking from the welfare teat while sitting on the couch playing spaceys and smoking dak is the chosen life style of way too many potential tax payers.

bwaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaa@too many potential potential taxpayers. If they receive welfare, they're taxed on it. You're dumb, you must be Oceans twin.

[sidecar bob]

Shame a lot of the poor are that way because they can't be fucked working or live up norf where there are hardly any jobs. Sucking from the welfare teat while sitting on the couch playing spaceys and smoking dak is the chosen life style of way too many potential tax payers.

Fuck me, sounds like the poor cunts are being punished enough already
If thats the alternative to paying tax im not a starter at all.

[Madness]

If thats the tax-avoidance alternative to residential property investment im not a starter at all.

Fixed it for you. I left the poor grammar and lack of capitals just to keep that earthy, working-class feel that I'm sure you'd appreciate.

[TheDemonLord]

bwaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaa@too many potential potential taxpayers. If they receive welfare, they're taxed on it. You're dumb, you must be Oceans twin.

Just pointing out - in order to be a net Tax Payer (as in, contributing more to the system than you consume) - in NZ, I believe it's around $60k a year.

Anyone earning less than that, is, by definition, bludging.

Here's the funny thing though - I don't begrudge my hard-earned money helping people.

What I DO begrudge is my hard-earned money being flitted away under the GUISE of helping people. Even moreso when the flittering is done on ideological grounds, based on ideas that have failed catastrophically Every. Single. Time. They. Were. Implemented. and based on premises that are fundamentally false (Mashy and his Tabula Rasa belief for example).

And for the record - you should do well to read 'The Great Leveller' - if you want to reduce inequality, there's been 4 methods and only 1 way to do it:

War.
Famine.
Plague.
Natural Disaster.

The way? Well - it's to reduce everyone to zero. Apart from that, by nature of the fact that humans are a diverse species, some people will be better than others, most people will be borderline useless and a few people will be unbelievably amazing.

Pareto is a bitch.

[sidecar bob]

Fixed it for you. I left the poor grammar and lack of capitals just to keep that earthy, working-class feel that I'm sure you'd appreciate.

Hey thanks for that.
Im at the track playing about with race bikes today & not posting from my usual device, I can hardly see the punctuation.
Dont forget commercial rentals

[Madness]

Dont forget commercial rentals

I actually wouldn't mind if commercial property was exempt from any CGT that we implement. For me it's all about fixing our problem with housing affordability and somehow restoring the kiwi dream of owning your own home that has been lost on such a huge chunk of our young people.

[jasonu]

bwaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaa@too many potential potential taxpayers. If they receive welfare, they're taxed on it. You're dumb, you must be Oceans twin.

Except the welfare cash they receive comes from the tax taken from those that can be bothered to actually work for their money.

[mashman]

Except the welfare cash they receive comes from the tax taken from those that can be bothered to actually work for their money.

OMG a tax on a tax.......... People need money to go out and buy stuff else business would "earn" less money coz they'd sell less stuff to less people. As is pretty well know, the poor spend everything they get and put it back into the economy so that they can pay themselves with the same money next time. It an't new money. We may as well write the names of the unemployed on their own personalised notes, coz next week they're getting the same money back from the same sources etc... But hey.........

[Ocean1]

I actually wouldn't mind if commercial property was exempt from any CGT that we implement. For me it's all about fixing our problem with housing affordability and somehow restoring the kiwi dream of owning your own home that has been lost on such a huge chunk of our young people.

So financial analysis suggesting a CGT will have either a neutral or inflationary effect on house prices is wrong?

[Jeeper]

Except the welfare cash they receive comes from the tax taken from those that can be bothered to actually work for their money.

So does the pay for government employees. It's the tax money.....

[Jeeper]

I actually wouldn't mind if commercial property was exempt from any CGT that we implement. For me it's all about fixing our problem with housing affordability and somehow restoring the kiwi dream of owning your own home that has been lost on such a huge chunk of our young people.

Owning a house is not a birth right for everyone. If circumstances don't allow it, it should just remain a dream till 'my' personal circumstances improve. Why charge the people who have managed to save something for the future? Besides, there is a difference between capital gain (realised or unrealised at a future date) versus current income. We already pay income tax on income generated by invested capital. Leave capital alone, it ain't broken.

[jasonu]

So does the pay for government employees. It's the tax money.....

Yes employees

[HenryDorsetCase]

Shame a lot of the poor are that way because they can't be fucked working or live up norf where there are hardly any jobs. Sucking from the welfare teat while sitting on the couch playing spaceys and smoking dak is the chosen life style of way too many potential tax payers.

Absolutely that is a subset of people receiving state benefits. I do believe it is hugely overstated as it serves a certain flavour of political rhetoric.

I also understand that we are currently experiencing a very low unemployment rate, and critical skills shortages in some areas.