"Kiwi jihadi" feels "stabbed in the back"...

[sidecar bob]

As you said you don't know much about guns.
I do and I have several including an AR15. I can drop an empty mag, slap in another and be shooting again in a couple of seconds. As long as the shooter was well practiced in reloading, had plenty of loaded mags on him AND HAD THE ONLY GUN IN THE BUILDING, he could have done just as much damage with a sack of 10 round mags.

Why would you need to know how to shoot in such a hurry?
Yep, and in the words of the U.S. Gun lobby. None of this would have happened if everybody carried guns.

[husaberg]

As you said you don't know much about guns.
I do and I have several including an AR15. I can drop an empty mag, slap in another and be shooting again in a couple of seconds. As long as the shooter was well practiced in reloading, had plenty of loaded mags on him AND HAD THE ONLY GUN IN THE BUILDING, he could have done just as much damage with a sack of 10 round mags.

Sorry jason i am not buying it.
If he didnt need such large mags and it would have made no difference why are they used so frequently by the military.
You say a few seconds would have made no difference he had mags 3 times the legal size he had to load them 3 times as often the most common reason for a A15 falure is in Mag loading.
Each loading event is a opportunity for him to be overpowered.
There is no reason to have big magazines for sport shooting in NZ.
Nor is there any reason to have them for home defence as unless you are a drug dealer few Criminals want to continue rob houses or rape people after a shot is fired.
WW2 was won with 7 shot semi autos hunting has always been carried out predominately with bolt action rirles
i understand you can get 60 and 100 round conventional mags in the USA for the Ar15
They were expensive but easy to get here.
they just carried a disclaimer not to fit them to a class semi autos.
I see gun city has removed them from the website.

[carbonhed]

Why would you need to know how to shoot in such a hurry?
Yep, and in the words of the U.S. Gun lobby. None of this would have happened if everybody carried guns.

The lack of self awareness is just staggering isn't it?

Being able to shoot that fast would be handy in the zombie apocalypse or if you were mowing down unarmed civilians or .... errr in a gunfight with an outlaw motorcycle gang....?

[Grumph]

I'd point out here that the one civilian whose story was accepted - that he had his gun to "help police" - was damm lucky to only be arrested.
It would have been so easy to shoot him as part of the action. And it would have been his fault.

We're not a nation where people in the street carry guns. Therefore the police seeing one in the hands of a civilian are entitled to consider it a threat.

[jasonu]

As to 'had the only gun in the building', how well has that worked in the USA?

JasonU - that avatar - I agree with an earlier poster, it was in bad taste earlier and now it's just rude.

Having the only gun in the building worked out great for all the school nightclub and office building attackers.

As for my avatar, get over it. I don’t remember it upsetting you or anyone else on here when that guy shot up Las Vegas or after any of the recent school attacks. Shit gets a lot more real when it happens in your own back yard.

[jasonu]

Why would you need to know how to shoot in such a hurry?
:

It’s a challenge for me. nothing more nothing less. I only target shoot. No critters are harmed in this activity. Btw I’m on the lookout for a quality scope. I want to be able to shoot golf balls at 100 meters. Just another challenge.

[husaberg]

. I want to be able to shoot golf balls at 100 meters. Just another challenge.

Gee Jason aim higher I can hit them further than that and i dont even play golf that often.

[jellywrestler]

The lack of self awareness is just staggering isn't it?

Being able to shoot that fast would be handy in the zombie apocalypse

so i hope Jacinda passes a law pronto that ensures all shoe laces are tied together on bodies before burial, this way when there is a zombie apocalypse then we can run away from them, once we stop for a laugh at them staggering and reeling around

[jafagsx250]

I seen that on the news also as i was leaving that and the parts to turn them into full assult rifle spec and lkely also th =e parts needed to make them full auto.
Massive loophole and very disappointing
I see Gun city were selling the parts i assumed you needed to hold the right cat or be out of the country etc.
I only caught part of it but was the gun city guy saying the 2 Semi autos were from elsewhere?

My Brother has always collected guns and he told me years ago it was simple to turn a SLR into full auto just a correctly placed matchstick.
I wouldn't fancy trying one on Full auto they are a handful as they are.
Not sure if its an urban legend or not.
But he has a proper secure bunker style magazine to protect his weapons.
But i know the military keeps track of all the mags.
I found a Streyr mag one day after an exercise they were bloody relieved i handed it back as those that lose them face a charge.

Looking at this
https://www.cga.ct.gov/2013/rpt/2013-r-0057.htm
It seems 22 Cal Semi autos are not used in the states for mass killings as the only 22 were mostly handguns.

Trust you to spout bullshit about things you know nothing about.

An assault rifle is a select fire rifle. We are not allowed to shoot a full auto rifle. The standard Ar15 as you have been told cannot actually shoot full auto without s lot of work.

[jafagsx250]

It’s a challenge for me. nothing more nothing less. I only target shoot. No critters are harmed in this activity. Btw I’m on the lookout for a quality scope. I want to be able to shoot golf balls at 100 meters. Just another challenge.

What's your budget? Ffp or sfp? Mag range?

[husaberg]

Trust you to spout bullshit about things you know nothing about.

An assault rifle is a select fire rifle. We are not allowed to shoot a full auto rifle. The standard Ar15 as you have been told cannot actually shoot full auto without s lot of work.

I was talking about the SLR which is a British produced FN FAL
AS for the Ar15 you can buy the parts its not illegal to purchase the parts it seems, in regards to this i said "likely"
The SLr rumour was confirmed by two other included one thats seen it done.
I am well aware what a 5.56 is, its reason for being and it story getting it adopted
I probably know a fair amount more about Stoner than you do as well.
I asked you to back up what you had posted you have proven to be unable to. Anyone would think you were called steve from Taupo.

[jafagsx250]

I was talking about the SLR which is a British produced FN FAL
AS for the Ar15 you can buy the parts its not illegal to purchase the parts it seems, in regards to this i said "likely"
The SLr rumour was confirmed by two other included one thats seen it done.
I am well aware what a 5.56 is
I probably know a fair amount more about Stoner than you do as well.
I asked you to back up what you had posted you have proven to be unable to. Anyone would thing you were called steve from Taupo

I was talking bout the Ar15. The issue is that its illegal to have a full auto weapon unregistered and its illegal to shoot it. Nothing will stop criminals.

I have. You just need to actually have a look at a the stats.

[husaberg]

I was talking bout the Ar15. The issue is that its illegal to have a full auto weapon unregistered and its illegal to shoot it. Nothing will stop criminals.

I have. You just need to actually have a look at a the stats.

You are a millennial, you know piss all period. You cant even produce any relevent stats to back up your ill considered opinions.
Thats not the issue he didn't buy the guns illegally we are not even sure he reallly modified them other than larger mags.
the point is as you have been already told it wasn't illegal for him to obtain the stuff.
How you geting on there with the evidence for all your current accusations thus far.

[TheDemonLord]

AS for the Ar15 you can buy the parts its not illegal to purchase the parts it seems, in regards to this i said "likely"

No.

You cannot.

Even with a Milspec BCG and a Milspec lower receiver receiver.

You still could not import a Full-Auto Trigger group into New Zealand or an Auto-Sear. They are not produced locally, You would need to import from the US, You would run into ITAR (due to the cost) and such an import would require a Permit to import and that would never be granted by the NZ Police for either item

[pritch]

Being able to shoot that fast would be handy in the zombie apocalypse or if you were mowing down unarmed civilians or .... errr in a gunfight with an outlaw motorcycle gang....?

Or serving in the army as a rifleman? Or an SAS trooper? Or...