shit media in nz, just gets worse

[Drew]

So take your mirror and shove it, I'll reproach them to whatever extent they deserve to be reproached.

Think you mean. '...whatever extent I choose to reproach, that suits my agenda best'.

[husaberg]

What retards genuinely believe in an actual genocidal sky-pixie?

Oh just the last 4 national Prime ministers. and their current leader for at least the next few days anyway.

Simon Bridges' father was a Baptist minister and he is a practicing Christian. Bridges said he voted in line with his Christian values.
Bill English is a practising Roman Catholic.
2008 Key stated that he attended church frequently with his children.
Jenny Shipley Shipley states her religion is important to her and Here father was a parson.
Jim Bolger was born into an Irish Catholic family and like the national party has opposed bills on religious grounds

[husaberg]

Well, in the case of a lot of aging white blokes It's born of a lifetime of having socialists steal their money.
.

Is that because you are too poor to afford he average extra $51 per person in the year to 2019 (population of 4.9 million) and $162 in the year to 2022. you will have to stump up with to fund out healthcare and education system that you clearly need and didnt make enough use of.
You life cant be that much of a sucess if you would miss that trifling amount of money.
Its actually less as that as those figures ncludes the Auckland fuel surcharge.

Do you need for us to have a whip around so you can afford a G&T at teh bows club ocean.

[Ocean1]

Think you mean. '...whatever extent I choose to reproach, that suits my agenda best'.

My agenda is reproaching thieves.

If you don't agree with me don't presume to tell me I mean something other than what I said, give me a reason you don't agree.

[Drew]

My agenda is reproaching thieves.

If you don't agree with me don't presume to tell me I mean something other than what I said, give me a reason you don't agree.

Pfft, "thieves". That's why I won't bother with a debate.

[husaberg]

My agenda is reproaching thieves.

If you don't agree with me don't presume to tell me I mean something other than what I said, give me a reason you don't agree.

1. Mike Sabin 2015
National Party MP Mike Sabin resigns from parliament "due to personal issues that were best dealt with outside Parliament"
one month after it is revealed that he is under investigation by police for assault.

2. Maurice Williamson 1 May, 2014
Maurice Williamson has resigned as a Minister.
It follows Herald revelations he contacted a top ranking police officer after a wealthy businessman with close ties to him was arrested on domestic violence charges.
The Prime Minister's office is understood to have also questioned Mr Williamson over his involvement with Donghua Liu's criminal case.
The public had been made aware that Mr Williamson contacted Police some time ago regarding their investigation of Mr Donghua Liu,"

3. Aaron Gilmore - 2013
The National list MP was forced to resign after allegations that he verbally abused a waiter at a Hamner Springs hotel for refusing to serve his dinner party more wine. Photo / Mark Mitchell He was put under further pressure a few days later when it was revealed that he had been warned about sending inappropriate emails while working at a government department. He showed his remorse when he announced his decision, saying "finally, I want to apologise once again to all those people who I've let down with my behaviour. I'm determined to learn from those lessons as I continue my life with more grace and humility."

4. Nick Smith - 2012
National MP Dr Nick Smith resigned from his Cabinet portfolios in an emotional statement to the media in March 2012. He was under immense pressure to resign following revelations that he had intervened in his friend and National Party activist Bronwyn Pullar's ACC claim while he had been the ACC Minister. Dr Smith had used his ministerial letterhead to advance Pullar's ACC claims. "I'm disappointed I'm not going to be able to continue my work in some of those areas I have a passion," he said. "But I apologise to all my fellow representatives for those misjudgments."

5. Darren Hughes - 2011
Photo / Mark Mitchell Labour MP Darren Hughes resigned two days after it was revealed he was subject to a complaint - believed to be of a sexual nature - from an 18-year old student. Then Labour leader Phil Goff announced Hughes' resignation, saying that the "controversy around the allegations made against him had made it impossible to carry out his duties." Hughes said that he had "enormous respect for the institution of Parliament" and was not prepared to see his party "distracted in the lead up to a critical election."

6. Phil Heatley - 2010
National MP Phil Heatley resigned his Housing and Fisheries portfolios after it was made public that he had misused his Ministerial credit card. There were claims he had used money for two bottles of wine after already been warned in 2009 for claiming $1,000 a week in accommodation expenses after moving into a larger home when he became minister, while renting out his apartment. "I have absolutely no desire to become the focus of a distraction for this Government, which has much to do to grow the economy, invest in jobs and help Kiwis get ahead,"

7. Pansy Wong - 2010
Photo / Marty Melville National Party Minister Pansy Wong stepped down from her role as a Cabinet minister after it was revealed that her husband could have conducted private business while on a taxpayer-subsidised overseas trip to China in 2008. A month later, Wong resigned as MP for Botany, saying that the furore had made her reflect on her future and how much her family had paid because of her political pursuits. "I want to ensure the National-led Government can progress its agenda without unnecessary distractions," she announced at a media conference in Wellington.

8. David Garrett - 2010
Act Party MP David Garrett was forced to resign from his role after he was charged with forging a document using details from a two-year-old boy's headstone in 1984. Using the details, he allegedly obtained the boy's birth certificate and filled in a passport application form, photographing himself in disguise. He was arrested 21 years later, but he denied the allegations and was discharged without conviction when it went to court. "I can do nothing to change the past. For any number of reasons, I wish I had not done such a stupid and dreadfully hurtful thing in 1984," he said in a media statement.

9. Richard Worth - 2009
National Party list MP, Dr Richard Worth entered Parliament as the MP for Epsom in 1999. His career was fraught with drama. In 2002 he skipped a Maori Battalion service to make a visit to Cairo to see the pyramids and take a camel ride while on an official trip. In 2009 there were reports of a private trip to India promoting aviation training in New Zealand, while having an interest in an academy. Later in the year there were allegations he visited a taxi driver who had allegedly been attacked by a group - one of whom was the son of an acquaintance. The following month there was a serious sexual allegation from an Auckland business woman. He resigned as a Cabinet Minister and a few weeks later as a list MP. "I went into politics to make a contribution to New Zealand. I can see that it is no longer possible for me to do that through politics, so I am now choosing to follow another positive path," his said in his resignation statement.

10. Donna Awatere Huata
ACT Party MP Donna Awatere Huata is convicted on fraud charges involving a trust set up to help underprivileged Maori children

[Ocean1]

Pfft, "thieves". That's why I won't bother with a debate.

What, you have a definition for "thieves" different from the rest of us?

Or do you just think some sorts of theft are OK?

[Brett]

The cynicism is strong here.

Perhaps, it's born of...guilt...apathy...ignorance?

Only people I've seen whinging about the events since the attack, are aging white folk. Mostly blokes, but the women of that generation tend to just parrot their husbands anyway.

Y'all wanna take a good long look in the fucken mirror, and check yourselves. Policy aside, her actions in the last week and a half are beyond reproach. Why tear her down for being the absolute best of us? It's not all her of course, there is a team coming up with ideas for what to do. That still doesn't take away from it.

Guilt...apathy...ignorance? How about pure fucking frustration at the ineptitude of those that are supposed to lead our nation. The only real action that she has taken is to reclassify some of the Arms Act to widen the classification of MSSA weapons. Yes, she has spoken empathetically and well - that does not by any stretch of the imagination make her the best of us. There are some folk out there who go well beyond simple words in making a difference every day. They sacrifice and lead in example by doing. That's not to take away frmo the good Jacinda has done, but rather to emphasise that she has a long way to go before being worthy of a Nobel fucking Peace Award. That also doesn't make up for the umpteen other ways that her tribe are leading us down the garden path.

Oh...yeah I am white and male, but by all accounts, I should be her ideal demographic. I will concede that politics is a tough game. There will be haters regardless, simply because they are on opposing sides. That's the gig with politics and I am sure Jacinda is aware of that...she has spent her entire working career as a politician after all.

[husaberg]

Guilt...apathy...ignorance? How about pure fucking frustration at the ineptitude of those that are supposed to lead our nation. The only real action that she has taken is to reclassify some of the Arms Act to widen the classification of MSSA weapons. .

Which was exactly what was recomended by the comitteee chosen by national chaired by national recommended that the previous goverment do. Also against the police opinion as well.
Turned out Paula bennet jhst like Jum Bolger when he didnt include Easily big mag converted AR15's and SKS and other thought they knew better.

Police Minister Paula Bennett consulted with independent firearms experts, and accepted seven recommendations, but rejected 12.
But Police Association president Chris Cahill said it was an "opportunity missed".
"The culture in New Zealand should allow use of firearms safely, but also the right balance of safety, security, and knowledge of what's out there.
"It's very frustrating the opportunity was missed earlier this year, and you know what it's going to take to bring it on the table again, and unfortunately that's a tragedy."

https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/...mmittee-report

After the Aramoana massacre in November 1990, John Banks, the Minister for Police, announced that the government would ban what he and others described as "Rambo-style" weapons and substantially tighten gun laws generally. The law was eventually passed in 1992 and required written permits to order guns or ammunition by mail order, restricted ammunition sales to firearms licence holders, added photographs to firearms licences, required licence holders to have secure storage for firearms at their homes (which would be inspected before a licence was issued), and, controversially, required all licence holders to be re-vetted for new licences, which would be valid for only 10 years.

The law also created the new category of "military-style semi-automatic", which like the Federal Assault Weapons Ban two years later in the United States, mainly covered the appearance rather than the functionality of the guns. These required a special endorsement, security and registration in the same manner as pistols, but could be used wherever A-category guns could.

[TheDemonLord]

The cynicism is strong here.

Perhaps, it's born of...guilt...apathy...ignorance?

Only people I've seen whinging about the events since the attack, are aging white folk. Mostly blokes, but the women of that generation tend to just parrot their husbands anyway.

Y'all wanna take a good long look in the fucken mirror, and check yourselves. Policy aside, her actions in the last week and a half are beyond reproach. Why tear her down for being the absolute best of us? It's not all her of course, there is a team coming up with ideas for what to do. That still doesn't take away from it.

Just a question:

Is there a country, that predominantly isn't run by 'aging white folk' that you'd rather live in?

If there isn't, may I suggest that some of the principles that those 'aging white folk' have (which incidentally have nothing to do with their skin colour) may in fact work rather well (as evidenced by the fact you don't live in those other countries) and maybe the reason they are 'whinging' is because of people taking actions that are in direct opposition to those principles?

Also, those 'Aging White Folk' lived through the Cold War, and got to see first hand the results of the Socialist/Communist experiments.

I'm going out on a limb here and suggesting those 2 things might give someone a valid reason to be critical, and that it's got nothing to do with Ethnicity, Gender or any other attributes on the Social Justice totempole.

[Swoop]

The Muslim faith requires no such thing these days, and it wasn't ever mainstream back In ye olden days.

But still exists and is practiced (sadly), by this franchise of looney god-botherers.

Oh just the last 4 national Prime ministers. and their current leader for at least the next few days anyway.

Yup, and all of them can shove their religious dogma. Ban religions! ALL of them!

The only real action that she has taken is to reclassify some of the Arms Act to widen the classification of MSSA weapons.

... Prior to banning and confiscating them (at taxpayer's expense)...

[TheDemonLord]

http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/nation...dg4K&ocid=iehp

Is this acceptable?

[husaberg]

A poor attempt from a fervent leftist. Surely you meant to say "Corporations before Country"?

What retards genuinely believe in an actual genocidal sky-pixie?

No the god before country reference ws apt and can refer to the religion or the money. they are both the the same thing.
Religion is just another means by which the right wing robs the poor of their money and seeks to controls their thinking.
The constant references the right wing makes to communists is essentially the same as the church crying witches or the devil.


Simon Bridges' father was a Baptist minister and he is a practicing Christian. Bridges said he voted in line with his Christian values.
Bill English is a practising Roman Catholic.
2008 Key stated that he attended church frequently with his children.
Jenny Shipley Shipley states her religion is important to her and Here father was a parson.
Jim Bolger was born into an Irish Catholic family and like the national party has opposed bills on religious grounds

Yup, and all of them can shove their religious dogma. Ban religions! ALL of them!
.

Thre whole National party the whole republican party sure why not.

Well, listening to some of the Republicans, they talk like God is an honorary chairman of their party. Even President (George H.W.) Bush slammed the Democrats for not mentioning God in their party platform.

What a bunch of loonies

[jasonu]

A crack whore gets a neck tattoo and makes the headlines. Well done NZ herald.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/spy/news/...ectid=12233576

[oldrider]

Yet the Jews' were granted possession of Israel on the grounds that it was promised to them by "GOD" ? --- OK.