Stop the lie in motorcycling?

[Katman]

The idea that someone will be prosecuted for drug driving for a joint they smoked 2 weeks ago is propaganda from the people who are opposed to saliva testing.

Or the ignorant.

Double post.

[Katman]

The idea that someone will be prosecuted for drug driving for a joint they smoked 2 weeks ago is propaganda from the people who are opposed to saliva testing.

Or the ignorant.

Much like your assertion that the government are supporting a reduction in road safety.

[rastuscat]

Much like your assertion that the government are supporting a reduction in road safety.

When did I assert that?

[Katman]

When did I assert that?

Post number 14.

[rastuscat]

Post number 14.

My bad, ambiguous. It's my conclusion that you cant have both, not theirs.

[Katman]

My bad, ambiguous. It's my conclusion that you cant have both, not theirs.

I understand that it's your conclusion.

That's why I said it was your assertion.

[pritch]

My understanding, apocryphal as it may be, is that cannabis users are easily detectable in traffic. They will be perfectly placed in their lane, doing 30kph and indicating 300metres prior to turning.

[nzspokes]

The existing Compulsory Impairment Test will still detect impairment. It's been available since around 2012.

It just doesn't get used as much as it should be.

The saliva test doesn't test for impairment. Just for the presence of the active ingredients of cannabis.

Do they use the "street " drug tests or just test for dumbsmoke?

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[nzspokes]

I have been informed that 28% of killed or seriously injured were riding impaired in NZ.

Thats still a high number.

[Katman]

I have been informed that 28% of killed or seriously injured were riding impaired in NZ.

Thats still a high number.

How did they manage to figure out the degree of impairment in those who were killed?

Or are you still struggling to figure out the difference between finding the presence of a substance in someone's system and actual impairment?

[nzspokes]

How did they manage to figure out the degree of impairment in those who were killed?

Or are you still struggling to figure out the difference between finding the presence of a substance in someone's system and actual impairment?

Look it up.

[Katman]

Look it up.

Look what up?

You said you had 'been informed'.

How were you informed?

[husaberg]

Look what up?

You said you had 'been informed'.

How were you informed?

By years, of watching you peddle crap on KB, claiming "that there is plenty of facts to back you up", on what ever rubbish you were pushing at the time.
Then, when challenged to prove it, you go telling people, "they need to go find it themselves".....

[F5 Dave]

Inthe past I have used the internet whilst impared.

But not now. Now I'm just better. Better than you.

Drunker than you.


And better.

[Temporary-Kiwi]

Just out of interest, I've always been skeptical about the bike runs starting or ending at pubs.

Even a pint or two slows the mind down. Legal or not doesn't come into it.

my best mate nearly died after 2 cans of beer he had after work, it was just enough to affect his concentration
he rode straight into a parked car at approx 100kph, he didn't even attempt to brake or avoid it, spent 5-6mnths in hospital recuperating.
he was an awesome rider, with amazing skills, but that incident really brought it home to me about the effects of alcohol and driving.
he gave up biking afterwards, which I still can't figure out as he was the only other rider I've been able to race side by side and know exactly what he would do.
it brought back memories of the alcohol awareness program that I saw at high school, " the roadshow".