soemthing to do with floowing too close maybe?

**Laava** · 23rd June 2019, 23:12

Had only just taken off...

**sidecar bob** · 24th June 2019, 07:20

Originally Posted by rastuscat

My main problem with group rides. Following distance.

Mine is other motorcyclists.
People can't seem to get on a bike & ride consistently & predictably for several hours at a time, even when you know someone, suddenly they will do something retarded.

**Dadpole** · 24th June 2019, 08:10

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

Mine is other motorcyclists.
People can't seem to get on a bike & ride consistently & predictably for several hours at a time, even when you know someone, suddenly they will do something retarded.

I have that problem with every other bastard on the road. Or perhaps it's me who is the problem...

Fortunately, we don't seem to have the 'close formation' groups to the same extent in NZ. At least out in the sticks where I live anyway.

**Berries** · 24th June 2019, 11:38

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

why didn't they just jump out rather than die, they all had parachutes on?

As a parachute needs a bit of height to fully deploy if shit happens on take off there is no point jumping out.

**jellywrestler** · 24th June 2019, 12:24

Originally Posted by Laava

Had only just taken off...

oh, how naive of me, then why didn't they use the ejector seats then?

**pritch** · 24th June 2019, 15:33

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

oh, how naive of me, then why didn't they use the ejector seats then?

It was a Beechcraft, not an F18.

**jellywrestler** · 24th June 2019, 18:11

Originally Posted by pritch

It was a Beechcraft, not an F18.

can an F18 fit 11 people?

**jellywrestler** · 24th June 2019, 18:12

Originally Posted by Berries

As a parachute needs a bit of height to fully deploy if shit happens on take off there is no point jumping out.

another one who took the hook line and sinker....

**pritch** · 24th June 2019, 18:15

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

can an F18 fit 11 people?

Only if the people are very, very small.

**nzspokes** · 24th June 2019, 18:22

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

oh, how naive of me, then why didn't they use the ejector seats then?

Its a Beachcraft, small problem of a roof. It would have been a very short ejection then hit the roof.

**jellywrestler** · 24th June 2019, 20:22

Originally Posted by pritch

Only if the people are very, very small.

do you mean 'abortions that made it'?

**Berries** · 24th June 2019, 20:51

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

another one who took the hook line and sinker....

Sorry, I just had you down as stupid.

**jellywrestler** · 24th June 2019, 20:59

Originally Posted by Berries

Sorry, I just had you down as stupid.

are you my ex wife?

**Swoop** · 24th June 2019, 21:33

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

The 1967 Beechcraft King Air, with a max occupancy of 9 passengers and crew combined that killed 11?
I'm sure that someone that knows more than me about aircraft can explain. Swoop, scrivy?

"Capable of carrying 13" according to Pineapple news (hopefully they are better journalists' than NZ media...) https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2019/0...g-plane-crash/
The deadliest time is from takeoff until ~5000ft and the very worst time is "power setting change" when the throttles are pulled back from full takeoff power - to climb power.
King air = 2 engines, so losing one means a real bad situation close to the ground.