Epstein and just how deep the rabbit hole goes...

[austingtir]

They still in cleanup mode mopping up all the loose ends....




According to the NTSB report, the airport employee who fueled the plane says he asked Greenwald twice if he wanted jet fuel. That employee claims Greenwald said “yes” both times. However, Greenwald was an experienced general aviation pilot with hundreds of hours of flight time experience who would have known the effect the jet fuel would have had on the plane’s engine. Captain Cox added that no pilot would ever say yes to putting jet fuel into that specific plane.

https://www.wfla.com/news/hillsborou...eon-ntsb-says/

dubious conspiracy theory claims here tho -

WHAT THE MEDIA IS FAILING TO OBSERVE:

Daniel was one of the pilots who were approached over being witnesses in the Jeffrey Epstein case. But hey, it doesn't end there, he went to Yale just like Bill Clinton, he flew medical supplies to Haiti after the 2010 earthquake just like The Clinton Foundation, and guess what? His plane was registered to a man residing in Rogers, Arkansas (where Bill has deep mob ties, check attachment for registry), the registry was changed a month before the accident on 9/6/19 and now reflects a new owner, coincidence? The pilot was asked to fly the plane from to Kokomo, Indiana and then to Tampa, Florida. That "friend" needs to be investigated as an accessory for murder.

The skilled pilot had over 10,000 hrs of flight experience. RIP.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/clinton-dr-30672326

IMO - there's no conspiracy here - i think the airport employee might have just made a terrible mistake and is not admitting to it.

[TheDemonLord]

They still in cleanup mode mopping up all the loose ends....



According to the NTSB report, the airport employee who fueled the plane says he asked Greenwald twice if he wanted jet fuel. That employee claims Greenwald said “yes” both times. However, Greenwald was an experienced general aviation pilot with hundreds of hours of flight time experience who would have known the effect the jet fuel would have had on the plane’s engine. Captain Cox added that no pilot would ever say yes to putting jet fuel into that specific plane.

https://www.wfla.com/news/hillsborou...eon-ntsb-says/

dubious conspiracy theory claims here tho -

WHAT THE MEDIA IS FAILING TO OBSERVE:

Daniel was one of the pilots who were approached over being witnesses in the Jeffrey Epstein case. But hey, it doesn't end there, he went to Yale just like Bill Clinton, he flew medical supplies to Haiti after the 2010 earthquake just like The Clinton Foundation, and guess what? His plane was registered to a man residing in Rogers, Arkansas (where Bill has deep mob ties, check attachment for registry), the registry was changed a month before the accident on 9/6/19 and now reflects a new owner, coincidence? The pilot was asked to fly the plane from to Kokomo, Indiana and then to Tampa, Florida. That "friend" needs to be investigated as an accessory for murder.

The skilled pilot had over 10,000 hrs of flight experience. RIP.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/clinton-dr-30672326

IMO - there's no conspiracy here - i think the airport employee might have just made a terrible mistake and is not admitting to it.

I feel the need to point out that all the pre-flight checks the poster is alluding to (which are all true BTW) are dependent on the Pilot themselves doing them.

There's nothing to stop a Pilot from Kicking the Tyres, lighting the 'Burners and heading to the Sky.

[Paul in NZ]

Personally I have very very mixed feelings about this whole mess PLUS I'm getting a bit tired of the whole Prince Andrew thing - yes hes a pompous entitled twat who probably DID have sex with that young woman. However shes milking this for every bit of fame and every cent and I cant help think that her basic personality traits are the same now as when she was off jet setting about as epstiens call girl...


Is this immoral and offensive? Shit yes and it shows shocking judgement (and poor morals) on Andrews part. But why are all so shocked and horrified? Go hang out on the streets of any large city and you will find 17yr olds selling themselves for a lot less than that in far more dismal settings. Try and go to the Police and explain that your 17 years old is acting out and sleeping around and you will get 'Sorry sir but shes 17'... I mean at 17 you cant really tell them what to do anymore... I would venture to suggest that had she said to him OMG I'm being exploited and sold and I'm here against my will please help me etc he might have looked at things differently... However she seemed willing and the needle fell off his moral compass a long time back so away he went (big surprise)


Nothing about this story is unusual - I will bet there are still clubs and bars all over the world full of pretty 17yr olds making tragic mistakes, wanting to be actresses, models or pit lane girls. Why do we only hear about this???.

[Katman]

Why do we only hear about this???.

Perhaps because the rich and the famous need to be seen as being held to the same standards as are expected of the rest of us.

[Paul in NZ]

Perhaps because the rich and the famous need to be seen as being held to the same standards as are expected of the rest of us.

I think you are missing my point - the rest of us are not held to those standards at all... There are lots of wayward 17 year olds..

[Katman]

I think you are missing my point - the rest of us are not held to those standards at all... There are lots of wayward 17 year olds..

If you decided to have sex with a 17 year old Paul, you'd be liable for the same prosecution that anyone else is - whether she was a happy participant or not.

It's not about the 17 year old.

It's about holding everyone to the same standards.

(And sending a message to the rich and the famous that money does not absolve you from adhering to those standards).

[TheDemonLord]

If you decided to have sex with a 17 year old Paul, you'd be liable for the same prosecution that anyone else is - whether she was a happy participant or not.

It's not about the 17 year old.

It's about holding everyone to the same standards.

(And sending a message to the rich and the famous that money does not absolve you from adhering to those standards).

In NZ at least, that would be totally fine.

[Paul in NZ]

If you decided to have sex with a 17 year old Paul, you'd be liable for the same prosecution that anyone else is - whether she was a happy participant or not.

It's not about the 17 year old.

It's about holding everyone to the same standards.

The legal age for consent in NZ is 16.... How on earth would anyone be prosecuted for a relationship with a 17 year old? And no - I'm certainly NOT intending to have sex with anyone...

The POINT is people are NOT held to the same standard - no one gives a shit about 17 year olds having sex unless its with someone famous? Jeeze go have another coffee...

[Katman]

And of course this story goes much, much deeper.

If there are indeed incriminating videos of rich and famous people engaging in the illegal services provided by Jeffery Epstein, one has to wonder as to the full extent of the motive for obtaining those videos.

[Katman]

The legal age for consent in NZ is 16.... How on earth would anyone be prosecuted for a relationship with a 17 year old? And no - I'm certainly NOT intending to have sex with anyone...

Ok Paul, I'll rephrase it for the simpletons amongst us.

If you decided to have sex with a 17 year old (where the age of consent is, let's say, 18) you would be liable for the same prosecution as anyone else is.

[austingtir]

The full story is probably not going to come out because of Epsteins blatantly obvious CIA/Mossad/Mi6 connections.


The rumour from day one about his island is they were upto far more dodgy stuff than just diddling under age girls.


Think about this for a minute. His island, his houses everywhere was under surveillance (cameras everywhere) AND IT WAS NOT BY EPSTEIN!!!!

Think about that hard for a minute. Qanon had the stills posted.

Im of the opinion most of which will never really come out because if it did many western governments/economies would collapse and shit would hit the fan if everything came out obviously not just around this Epstein thing but all the bogus BS the CIA/Deepstaters and co have been upto.

Epstein's planes were ex CIA planes. Ghislaine maxwell goes to in and out burger in cali and sends an obvious message by sitting there reading a book about spies getting killed.....

Wake up!!

[Paul in NZ]

Ok Paul, I'll rephrase it for the simpletons amongst us.

If you decided to have sex with a 17 year old (where the age of consent is, let's say, 18) you would be liable for the same prosecution as anyone else is.

That's the issue though - was it actually illegal where this is supposed to have happened? Or is this just wowserisim of the worst kind?? As for videos of people doing drugs? Again that speaks more about the people making the videos doesn't it? There are literally 1000's of people taking drugs and no one gets this bent out of shape - I think it is double standards and having hung out with media and advertising types at various times the utterly worst kind of hipocrasy.


Bear in mind - I like the Queen and don't even mind Charles even if I would hate to share a bus trip with either of them and I don't really like Andrew (but I would be OK with a bus trip with him) but all this fuss is click bait. Most people and most media people would probably done exactly the same thing as he did in similar circumstance...

[Katman]

That's the issue though - was it actually illegal where this is supposed to have happened? Or is this just wowserisim of the worst kind??

Maybe that's what an investigation should examine.

As for videos of people doing drugs? Again that speaks more about the people making the videos doesn't it? There are literally 1000's of people taking drugs and no one gets this bent out of shape - I think it is double standards and having hung out with media and advertising types at various times the utterly worst kind of hipocrasy.

Drugs? Who said anything about drugs?

[austingtir]

As if it wasnt already obvious Andy is lying his ass off....

https://nypost.com/2019/12/02/email-...ginia-giuffre/

[FJRider]

Ok Paul, I'll rephrase it for the simpletons amongst us.

If you decided to have sex with a 17 year old (where the age of consent is, let's say, 18) you would be liable for the same prosecution as anyone else is.

The age of consent for sexual activity in the UK is 16. Where (what country) did the (alleged) sexual activity occur ... ???

The main legal point of issue is ... was it "Without consent" (if it did happen) ...

Was there anybody around that saw it happen (that's still alive) .. ??