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    Quote Originally Posted by Beekeeper View Post
    had a pretty good bonnet for filleting fish on.
    Yes you're right, they were perfect for cunnilingus

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    500/4 on TM
    Very nice, takes me back to the Summer of 1984 touring the SI for 4 weeks.
    Cost me $1500, quite a lot on my $5 PH apprentice wage.

    Bargain if its only 10K, probably go higher as they are a good example of late 60's design.
    I suppose for similar money you could buy a modern bike but meh...dealers, waiting weeks for parts, having to buy all the matching apparel.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    waiting weeks for parts, having to buy all the matching apparel.
    and how come 500 four parts get here quicker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beekeeper View Post
    Checking out the trademe listings, as you do, and there seems to a lot of old bikes from the 70's mostly that people are trying to and in some cases selling for pretty ridiculous prices.

    Bikes like GT Suzuki's, CB Honda's and a plethora of other plain old crap. Those bikes were not very good in their day and are arguably 50 times worse now but the nostalgia about them is at an all time high. I can only conclude that old people who have a bit of spare coin are desperately trying to relive their youth or youthful fantasies.

    So the point is get in now and sell your old crap now and cash in!
    there's a bit of pot/kettle here, correct me if you're wrong, you own a Panigale. Why not a similar capacity ducati, but cheaper, you'll never use the difference on the road, and there's just a few percent of people on this country who could use the difference on the track, be it a track day or a race day. The slice of coin you'll drop when selling will buy one if not three of these bikes you're pointing out so the only justification I can see is ego, or you've got a shit load of money to launder and need a way to dispose of it.
    Look at the art market, I can splash some paint on a canvas and sell it for a few bucks, other bits of canvas with a bit of paint splashed on them can sell for a few dollars more right through to hundreds of millions of dollars. They are still pretty much the same to look at though.
    that's shit i can't explain, they call themselves 'art lovers' but it's entirely an investment scam to me

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    You'd just paint crude penises though to be fair.

    Having said that there's probably a market for that. You could be onto something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    and how come 500 four parts get here quicker?
    I can only speak of 40 year old Norton/Triumph/BMW parts, but a mate of mine had one and its the same.

    Locally there is a pretty extensive and well priced availability of 60's/70's Brit parts.
    Best time I have had for BMW parts from the UK is 5 days.
    Same can be said for my mid 90's Ducati and late 80's Vespa daily rider.

    All a mouse click away.

    Art analogy is interesting as I see motorcycles as mechanical art.
    For a few grand you can have a slice of a given moment in time and all the effort of hundreds of engineers and techs in a nice 200 KG package, that you can even start up and take out for a ride.
    I'm not sure I'd get all that from having a 10K painting hanging in the lounge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post

    Art analogy is interesting as I see motorcycles as mechanical art.
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    Motor vehicles are pretty much the mast accessible item that portrays fashion trends over time, everyone has to be sold to someone, and in a market it's a buyers choice, so fashions colours etc were brought in to assist with that. Of course things like wind tunnels now also help.
    I stayed with Graeme and Helen Crosby one night, they had spent a lot of money building an art gallery and had rocks and stuff for $8k etc. somewhere during the night i said to her art and music have zero value at all in reality, the value they end up with is simply what we put on them.
    You do not need them to exist, they might make life better however to some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    I can only speak of 40 year old Norton/Triumph/BMW parts, but a mate of mine had one and its the same.

    Locally there is a pretty extensive and well priced availability of 60's/70's Brit parts.
    Best time I have had for BMW parts from the UK is 5 days.
    Same can be said for my mid 90's Ducati and late 80's Vespa daily rider.

    All a mouse click away.

    Art analogy is interesting as I see motorcycles as mechanical art.
    For a few grand you can have a slice of a given moment in time and all the effort of hundreds of engineers and techs in a nice 200 KG package, that you can even start up and take out for a ride.
    I'm not sure I'd get all that from having a 10K painting hanging in the lounge.
    Im a huge motorcycles as art fan.
    Fortunately my wife shares my view on that & i often get links from her with messages like "this would look good outside the bedroom door"
    I recently noticed that none of them ever got dusty & commented on this, at which point i was shown the special microfibre cloth & products used on them weekly during housework day while im at work.
    Bless her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    there's a bit of pot/kettle here, correct me if you're wrong, you own a Panigale. Why not a similar capacity ducati, but cheaper, you'll never use the difference on the road, and there's just a few percent of people on this country who could use the difference on the track, be it a track day or a race day. The slice of coin you'll drop when selling will buy one if not three of these bikes you're pointing out so the only justification I can see is ego, or you've got a shit load of money to launder and need a way to dispose of it.
    Look at the art market, I can splash some paint on a canvas and sell it for a few bucks, other bits of canvas with a bit of paint splashed on them can sell for a few dollars more right through to hundreds of millions of dollars. They are still pretty much the same to look at though.
    that's shit i can't explain, they call themselves 'art lovers' but it's entirely an investment scam to me
    No pot calling and in reference to comments about art, sure people are entitled to have mechanical art and buy and sell whatever they want for whatever they want (legally) but thats not what I am seeing happening. The whole discussion about what art is can be complex and contradictory but motorcycles in themselves are not art, they are consumer items although they can be an art form and we can appreciate them as such- there is a difference.

    As for the Panigale, it's superior in many respects to earlier models and arguably safer with superb electronic aids. The power you get used to very quickly, old men like us shouldnt be doing 4th gear wheelies on public roads but there's a bit of mongrel left in this old fart and I for one would prefer to go out at 300ks (on a track of course) than sucking porridge through a straw at the old folks home. They are not cheap but I think the money is not that bad when a Japper of the same (or better) performance is about mid 30. These bikes are also designed with an ethos in mind, the whole package is congruous and elegant in the same way a bike designed by a marketing/accounting/engineering committee may miss the mark completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    Cost me $1500, quite a lot on my $5 PH apprentice wage.


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    I suspect the OP was referring to the likes of this.
    $4400.00 really....
    I used to get given these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Sichoe View Post
    Sorta like CRT tv's. Doesn't really matter how good they were back in the day they absolutely suck compared to anything modern.
    Strangely, there is a BIG demand for decent CRT screens nowadays.
    There is a bit of a cult following regarding "ancient" video games that display far better on one of those monitors. A mate sold one on BetradeMe and there was a good bidding-war because of this reason.
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    The OP is talking like you can only have one bike.
    I have a bike with traction control, abs & all that kind of shit, but during the colder shorter days when traversing the country isn't much fun, I've been getting a huge kick out of riding a '70's 750 Honda most weekends.
    45 minutes on that thing on a Sunday afternoon on the right roads is worth nearly all day on a super modern.

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    Not saying that at all, mutton dressed as lamb is delicious if you like mutton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beekeeper View Post
    Not saying that at all, mutton dressed as lamb is delicious if you like mutton
    It's mutton dressed up as mutton actually.
    I enjoy all kinds of bikes. 19 kinds over six decades, several in each to be precise, I'd like to have more, but that's all I've got right now. We're in the same boat with our cars too.
    I'm quite confident that there is no way my motorcycling needs could be met by one exotic sports bike from a single era, If yours can you are quite fortunate, as I'm sure it's the less expensive option.
    It's a bugger, because now I've had to sell my business to free up time to maintain them, & then buy some industrial land & put up a building to house them.
    I tell you, the costs soon mount up.

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