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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Do you think the Greek economy puts them in any position to negotiate?

    Especially when doing so will put them in direct opposition to Germany whose major industries rely on British trade?

    As for Trump - you've omitted the part were Trump has said after Boris win that he was looking forward to a trade deal with Britain...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
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    Sure he spouts a lot of inconsequential BS, but on the big things he's said, he tends to stick by them.

    I don't see any reason why Trump wouldn't do a Trade deal with the UK, it's not like he's Barrack Obama....
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Do you think the Greek economy puts them in any position to negotiate?

    Especially when doing so will put them in direct opposition to Germany whose major industries rely on British trade?
    It may not be a negotiation it may just be a demand. We should get more coverage in coming days. The Germans won't be exporting so much to Britain, there will be tariffs and likely a lot less cash in Britain. Besides which the whole EEC is pissed off with the Poms.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    As for Trump - you've omitted the part were Trump has said after Boris win that he was looking forward to a trade deal with Britain...
    Boris and Trump have had a falling out and Boris subsequently cancelled his planned US visit.

    Trump's policy is "America first" and the discussions will not be about helping Britain. Britain will likely be forced to buy chemical beef and chlorine chicken and God knows what other sub-standard US produce. Once they accept that stuff into Britain the EEC would be within their rights to refuse any agricultural products from Britain.

    The US politicians have already threatened the EEC with a tariff on motorbikes in an effort to bully them into accepting their chemically enhanced beef. The EEC doesn't want a bar of the stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    It may not be a negotiation it may just be a demand. We should get more coverage in coming days.
    And how's that been working out for the Greeks? Making demands to the EU? I seem to remember all of Greece voting against Austerity and the EU simply saying 'No.'

    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    The Germans won't be exporting so much to Britain, there will be tariffs and likely a lot less cash in Britain.
    Where else are they going to Export, not only that, the EU now has a rather large, Britain shaped hole in their Budget that needs filling - Germany is not going to be in a position to pick and choose who it trades with on ideological grounds as that will cripple their economy.

    As for less Cash in Britain? On what planet? Britain was a net contributor to the EU - that means we payed more money than we got back, on that basis alone Britain will have more cash. Not only that but since Britain buys more from the EU than the EU buys from Britain, if Trade tariffs are imposed - that will hurt the EU more than it hurts Britain.

    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Besides which the whole EEC is pissed off with the Poms.
    Britain: Pissing off Europe since 1066, and Winning.

    In seriousness though, Britain has consistently held differing views on a wide range of subjects than those on the continent, many of which have historically caused great upset, and yet Britain survived, one might say 'Thrived'.

    Let them be pissed off, that once again Britain is pissing on their plans, they'll realise (after the collapse of the EU) that we were right all along (as always)

    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Boris and Trump have had a falling out and Boris subsequently cancelled his planned US visit.
    I think that's over-hyped nonsense, but let's treat it as if it's true - the UK/US relationship is still extremely strong, we still share a myriad of Military tech, we have good relations with multiple comparative organizations across the pond. As of yet I've not seen Trump make any statements that even come close to Obamas 'Back of the Queue' statement, so until that time....

    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Trump's policy is "America first" and the discussions will not be about helping Britain. Britain will likely be forced to buy chemical beef and chlorine chicken and God knows what other sub-standard US produce.
    America First should be the policy of all US politicians, but you are missing the addendum "Everyone else second" - I have no problem with the US President doing what is best for the US - that's his Job.... So long as everyone else is indeed 'second'

    JRM has already rebuffed the point on Chicken - if it is labelled as such, let the Consumer decide. If you want to buy Chlorinated Chicken, then you are free to do so, if you don't want to by Chlorinated Chicken, then you are free to do so. If it's sold at a price-point where it is competitive (ie cheaper) then that is for those to decide.

    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Once they accept that stuff into Britain the EEC would be within their rights to refuse any agricultural products from Britain.
    Rubbish. Absolute Rubbish. Just because Country A trades a certain good with Country B doesn't mean that Country C refuses trade with Country B.

    We used to trade Firearms and other sporting goods across the ditch with Australia, but we (used to) import those eeeeeevil semi-autos from the US, whereas Aus had banned them.

    This is the quintessential Guardian-esque 'Project Fear' nonsense that at every single juncture where their claims have been tested, they've been shown to be 100% false.

    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    The US politicians have already threatened the EEC with a tariff on motorbikes in an effort to bully them into accepting their chemically enhanced beef. The EEC doesn't want a bar of the stuff.
    And the EU can decide on whether or not the export market of Motorcycles is valuable enough to allow imports of US Beef. If it is, then they'll accept, if it isn't they won't.
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    TDL I only read that other post because someone quoted it. Assuming that your most recent post was in reply to mine I read that too. That was a mistake, but the strangest part was the reference to 1066, Britain lost that one as I recall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    TDL I only read that other post because someone quoted it. Assuming that your most recent post was in reply to mine I read that too. That was a mistake, but the strangest part was the reference to 1066, Britain lost that one as I recall.
    "Since"

    It has a meaning and it isn't an inclusive one. So there is no conflict between my reference and your point that Britain was defeated in 1066. It's almost like I knew about the Battle of Hastings and Harold Godwinson and worded my reference accordingly.

    As for your "Assuming it was in reply to mine" - cut the pretense, Either you want to engage in debate or you want to Ignore - I'm cool either way and hold no ill-will towards you - but you do have to make up your mind and drop the BS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    but you do have to make up your mind and drop the BS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    ....but you do have to make up your mind....
    MSNBC makes that up for him.
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    Oh I must really irk you to be repeatedly proven to be a total utter moron in public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    MSNBC makes that up for him.
    TBH, I'd be well chuffed if I was mentioned on MSNBC.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post

    As for your "Assuming it was in reply to mine" - cut the pretense, Either you want to engage in debate or you want to Ignore - I'm cool either way and hold no ill-will towards you - but you do have to make up your mind and drop the BS.
    It'll never happen I'm afraid. He went on to great lengths to point out Ari at MSMBC was a lawyer yet he got it wrong for over 2.5 years as did a lot of opion aka news presenters that were lawyers.
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