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    Are Brexit and Trump the biggest ever embarrasments!

    As above, it seems most people in the UK are so sick of this fiasco, and it is making their country look weak.
    And then Trump, how is this idiot still allowed to be their leader?
    International fails of the highest order!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laava View Post
    As above, it seems most people in the UK are so sick of this fiasco, and it is making their country look weak.
    And then Trump, how is this idiot still allowed to be their leader?
    International fails of the highest order!
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    Take us to your leaders said the space man.

    Well, here are two of them the Poms left (Brexit?) so couldn't find them:- https://twitter.com/i/status/1169766594064584704 -
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    My american neighbours were full of praise for the Trumpster pre election, and now it is a bit of a sore point for them. And before people start to go on about how Hilary would not have been any better, well that's probably right too. We were in alaska recently, and this is the state that put up Sarah Palin remember, and there is no way you could get the locals to even talk about politics. Might have been because of the canadians we were with at the time...a week before that, in the UK and same deal re brexit.
    Is going to be interesting to see what the coming year brings that's for sure!

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    ...we can't even sort out our own politics...leave the international shit out...so many problems here, and other peoples hurricanes or socio iniquities or wank fuck puppet,comedic, leaders, are on your mind...nah...


    ...business and economy?...hahahaha...

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    The problem isnt Trump or Brexit.

    Its the globalists in the EU and the deepstate sellouts in the states that are running interference and telling the media to hyperventilate at every little thing Boris and Trump do.


    If they started hanging people for Treason like they used to all these problems would cease to exist very quickly.

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    Trump's all good.

    Brexit is only an issue because the majority of Parliament don't actually want to leave. It's like putting Vegans in charge of the Annual Steak and Beef festival and wondering why it's failing.



    However why Brexit isn't an Embarrassment goes deeper:

    You've had Labour for the better part of 3 years demanding that they call a General Election.

    So BoJo the Brexiteer Offers them one - suddenly, silence.

    They call Bojo a Dictator for his Proroguing of Parliament, yet he's a Dictator that offers them an Election.

    What Brexit is doing is forcing Labour to show it's hand as contemptuous of their working class voter base and showing that it's now just for Middle Upper-class Champagne Socialists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Trump's all good.

    Brexit is only an issue because the majority of Parliament don't actually want to leave. It's like putting Vegans in charge of the Annual Steak and Beef festival and wondering why it's failing.



    However why Brexit isn't an Embarrassment goes deeper:

    You've had Labour for the better part of 3 years demanding that they call a General Election.

    So BoJo the Brexiteer Offers them one - suddenly, silence.

    They call Bojo a Dictator for his Proroguing of Parliament, yet he's a Dictator that offers them an Election.

    What Brexit is doing is forcing Labour to show it's hand as contemptuous of their working class voter base and showing that it's now just for Middle Upper-class Champagne Socialists.
    As a champagne socialist, I approve of this message. Bollinger please none of your tatty Moet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    As a champagne socialist, I approve of this message. Bollinger please none of your tatty Moet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    What Brexit is doing is forcing Labour to show it's hand as contemptuous of their working class voter base and showing that it's now just for Middle Upper-class Champagne Socialists.
    That would seem to be about as wild a misreading of the situation as it's possible to get. The Brit Labour party has been captured by the hard left. Corbyn doesn't like the "west" and that includes Europe, so he won't oppose Brexit. Had he done so there could have been a meaningful election choice.

    If there is an election now it's likely that the hard right Tory element will align with the Brexit party and they will defeat the Lib Dems and a crippled Labour party. The resultant medium term possibility of Nigel Farage as PM is already giving people nightmares.

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    Corbyn did go on a motorcycle tour in 1981..... to...... East Germany.😳
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    That would seem to be about as wild a misreading of the situation as it's possible to get. The Brit Labour party has been captured by the hard left. Corbyn doesn't like the "west" and that includes Europe, so he won't oppose Brexit. Had he done so there could have been a meaningful election choice.

    If there is an election now it's likely that the hard right Tory element will align with the Brexit party and they will defeat the Lib Dems and a crippled Labour party. The resultant medium term possibility of Nigel Farage as PM is already giving people nightmares.

    Veuve Cliquot FTW
    So the part about Britains Labour being captured by the Hard Left is something we agree on.

    Huzzah!

    Corbyn is very interesting - There's numerous clips from the 90s and from the mid 2000s of him criticizing the EU, which is in line with his dislike of the EU. However, this is where things get really interesting - The Champagne socialists Hate Brexit and Love the EU.

    Part of it I believe is because there's a strong love of Brexit from the so-called 'far-right', and they cannot align themselves with anything they perceive as 'far-right', Part of it stems from the Open Borders debate, Part of it stems from a defeatist attitude to Britain and it's ability to go it alone.

    but I think there is also a part that sees the EU and it's mechanisms/powers as something that they could leverage.

    And so we get the Jeremy Corbyn of today who is seemingly pro-EU, in contrast to his working class party voter base, in contrary to his previous statements.

    As for opposing Brexit - if you looked carefully at Labour's Brexit plan, it included staying in the Single Market, staying under the ECJ, which IMO is not Brexit at all.

    Final point is to why the likes of Nigel Farage will get in - maybe it's because the People want Brexit and they know that Nigel will deliver on Brexit.

    The is the same scenario as Donald Trump - when the Politicians try and go against the People, the People go against the Politicians - and win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Final point is to why the likes of Nigel Farage will get in - maybe it's because the People want Brexit and they know that Nigel will deliver on Brexit.

    The is the same scenario as Donald Trump - when the Politicians try and go against the People, the People go against the Politicians - and win.
    I dont think its that simple. In particular when you have the Russkis with their hand up Trumps arse moving his mouth, and his naked self interest (say what you will, he is a 1%er and not in the cool way) and also things like Cambridge Analytica and their involvement in the UK's election I am not sure that the "people" (whoever they are) get a chance to speak.

    Trump in my view is one of the most unexpectedly successful conmen in history. In spite of incompetence, misogyny, racism, support from fundy fuckwits, there he is. He will get in again too, I'm convinced of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    I dont think its that simple. In particular when you have the Russkis with their hand up Trumps arse moving his mouth, and his naked self interest (say what you will, he is a 1%er and not in the cool way) and also things like Cambridge Analytica and their involvement in the UK's election I am not sure that the "people" (whoever they are) get a chance to speak.

    Trump in my view is one of the most unexpectedly successful conmen in history. In spite of incompetence, misogyny, racism, support from fundy fuckwits, there he is. He will get in again too, I'm convinced of that.
    I agree with the last statement and almost none of the rest. Even by your own statement, if he's a successful Conman, how can he be incompetent? Surely being successful (and it wasn't unexpected to a good number of people, it was just unexpected by a certain clique of very vocal and public groups) negates the claim of incompetence.

    People see the Holier-than-thou attitude of the Far Left, and in reaction vote to the right, especially when there is no Moderate Left option.


    the Russia Collusion was smoke and mirrors, in much the same way as Labour have been with Brexit - looking for every opportunity to deny reality and avoid looking at their own failings.

    For perhaps some clarity - when Tony Blair announced 'New Labour' and had evicted all the Marxists and Socialists (allegedly) from the party, Labour won a landslide victory, there's some deep wisdom in that fact.
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