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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    With a huge majority in parliament, and the leftist lunatics being neutered, it should get done much faster than planned.
    Hmm - Boris promised to get it done - and failed - hence the election ...

    The problem is not the British parliament .. Boris already had a majority when he failed before ...

    The problem is the EU - which will not accept the deal the British Parliament wanted ..

    Looks like a crash out with a hard Exist coming .

    And the collapse of the UK when Scotland votes to leave .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    Hmm - Boris promised to get it done - and failed - hence the election ...

    The problem is not the British parliament .. Boris already had a majority when he failed before ...

    The problem is the EU - which will not accept the deal the British Parliament wanted ..

    Looks like a crash out with a hard Exist coming .

    And the collapse of the UK when Scotland votes to leave .
    I disagree entirely - the problem was a majority of the British Parliament not accepting the result.

    You can't negotiate with a foreign entity of any sort when you have someone in your camp publicly undermining your negotiating position.

    As for a Crash-out - Disagree and Scotland is unlikely to vote to leave the UK - they didn't do it last time, and the subsequent polling since then shows an increase in the staying in the UK faction, not a decrease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    I disagree entirely - the problem was a majority of the British Parliament not accepting the result.

    You can't negotiate with a foreign entity of any sort when you have someone in your camp publicly undermining your negotiating position.

    As for a Crash-out - Disagree and Scotland is unlikely to vote to leave the UK - they didn't do it last time, and the subsequent polling since then shows an increase in the staying in the UK faction, not a decrease.
    The Saturday election results from Scotland speak to Scottish displeasure with Westminster
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    The Saturday election results from Scotland speak to Scottish displeasure with Westminster
    Disagree, in part.

    The SNP, as terrible as I think they are, are on par with Boris in terms of his Britishness vs their Scottishness. Sticking it to the English is one of the oldest Scottish traditions.

    There's no equivalent Party with a strong national identity in Scotland that also wants to remain in the UK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    The Saturday election results from Scotland speak to Scottish displeasure with Westminster
    Its actually the farmers in scotland because they have become fairly rich for the most part and are really part of the few in the UK that have actually benefitted from being part of the EU.

    Family owned farms up there and sold moving to Australia and NZ.

    Being part of the EU has certainly benefitted farms in Scotland. Everyone else not so much. Practically all other industry like car factories etc has been systematically destroyed by the EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    Looks like a crash out with a hard Exist coming .

    And the collapse of the UK when Scotland votes to leave .
    Having such a slim majority previously, and agitators screwing up the process, the new majority will make it far easier to enact what the people voted for.

    As for Scotland. They won't do it and would not be of significance if they did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Disagree, in part.

    The SNP, as terrible as I think they are, are on par with Boris in terms of his Britishness vs their Scottishness. Sticking it to the English is one of the oldest Scottish traditions.

    There's no equivalent Party with a strong national identity in Scotland that also wants to remain in the UK.
    https://www.commondreams.org/news/20...-snps-sturgeon

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    The problem with the narrative that is being woven there, is that England DID give Scotland the right to choose - in 2014.

    55% wanted to stay in the Union.

    There's also some rather interesting Parallels with Brexit - namely there was a vote, that was won fairly by the side that the Politicians didn't approve of.

    If it's a rejection of Brexit - why not vote for the Lib Dems?

    Furthermore - they want independance, but want closer ties with the EU....

    That is when the reality that this is all grandstanding and posturing becomes apparent.
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    If you don't know where you are going how will you know when you get there?

    Currently the common denominator throughout the world is "confusion" and it is orchestrated in order that the world will finally surrender from the ensuing chaos to the will of "The New World Order". - = (Power & control?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    Currently the common denominator throughout the world is "confusion" and it is orchestrated in order that the world will finally surrender from the ensuing chaos to the will of "The New World Order". - = (Power & control?)
    Soros has even admitted his plans are collapsing. He's been banned from 7 countiies for interferring in internal politics. I'm sure the number will rise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post

    As for Scotland. They won't do it and would not be of significance if they did.

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    That's questionable - the North Sea Oil would all be in Scottish waters - and without the North Sea Oil the English economy is history .
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