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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWST? View Post
    Also his team isnt a match for MM either i reckon .They ussually win at least 1 race a year on team call/strategy.
    Yeah apart from the f#$k up at PI a few years ago they normally are right on top of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    Yeah apart from the f#$k up at PI a few years ago they normally are right on top of that.
    they learnt from that didnt they!

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    So Abraham has been given the boot from Avintia, sounds like Dorna have been meddling in there quite heavily as he had a contract for next year.
    This opens the door for Zarco who Dorna clearly want to stick around.
    Amazing how Dorna are going to bat for a guy who shafted his team this year big time. Being French has kept him in the game. So while Karol may not be the most talented rider on the grid (daddies money has got him in there), it was a secured seat for 2020 they've arseholed him from. Bad juju.

    Watched some replays of Jorge on the Ducati last year the other night on the youtube.
    What a fucking shame he wasn't there this year, he rode that bike amazingly once he got it dialed in. What could have been...

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    This is why Ducati win so few championships. Look at the talent they've had in the last decade or so, and how well they've used it. And if the rumours are true, they want Vinales in 2021. Hopefully he has the good sense to say no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaferRides View Post
    This is why Ducati win so few championships. Look at the talent they've had in the last decade or so, and how well they've used it. And if the rumours are true, they want Vinales in 2021. Hopefully he has the good sense to say no.
    Not promoting Miller is yet another case od them being spuds.

    Dovi will never win them a championship unless MM injures himself or summant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Autech View Post
    Not promoting Miller is yet another case od them being spuds.

    Dovi will never win them a championship unless MM injures himself or summant

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    Jack is brilliant and is definitely in the probables list for a Ducati Factory seat, but he's still a bit too inconsistent and has some way to go on the tyre management front. His one lap pace is awe-inspiring and he rides out of his skin sometimes. But balancing pace and tyre life over a race distance seems to be an issue. It also might be that he just needs half a dozen more data engineers and mechanics too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Autech View Post
    So Abraham has been given the boot from Avintia,
    David Emmett has a write up on his MotoMatters page. It seems the parting of the ways was unnecessarily harsh. The letter advising Abraham his contract was cancelled was in Spanish and it being a weekend he couldn't get a professional translation. A precise translation would be important because Abraham is a qualified lawyer.

    He is unhappy about the late dumping because there will be no openings anywhere else. His crew chief received similar treatment.

    Abraham comments that Ohlins withdrew their services from Avintia which suggests the team have money troubles. With Abraham gone the money troubles may get worse.

    Oh, and it's not Zarco riding the bike in testing it was the new Moto E champ, but that may just be in the nature of a reward for a job well done.
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    Final testing for the year has happened, Vinales fastest by 3/4 second. He seems to ride much better when there is not so much pressure on him, Suzuki days, test days. He seems to get flustered when the pressure mounts up on race day.
    MM took a low speed tumble and he felt some dislocation in his previously good right shoulder. Honda really should make the 2020 bike other rider friendly, they really are vulnerable if the unthinkable were to occur with a MM injury. His brother went well in the test too, chipping away at the gap to the fast guys.

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    Seems that Zarco remains a little injured following being hit by Lecuonas bike, so was not invited to the Jerez test. Avintia apparently invited Garzo after a good showing in MotoE, fair enough for him. He was going to race in place of Rabat earlier in the year, but that did not eventuate.
    But it is most likely that no agreement between Avintia and Zarco (Zarco Garzo, easy to get mixed up there.....). Zarco was also heard to say that he would rather race Moto2 than be in that team on that bike, or words to that effect.
    But a GP19 in MotoGP even with a 2nd or 3rd rate team might be enough to swing it, along with Dorna providing extra Euros to Avintia to have him there.
    It appears that he remains incredibly popular with fans, but one might expect that with Fabio Q in the field that the French supporters have elsewhere to cheer. But, there is a feeling with the French that because FQ lived in Spain for so long that he is not as French as Zarco is. Zarco is French with every fibre of his body and makes no bones about telling you how it is, for him. Which I for one applaud. Kiwis are much less willing to do that and less willing to like it when others do it. While the Austrians are like the French in that regard, his mistake (if you want to call it that) was saying it in public. But then that is what the press and fans want, so he knows full well which side of the bread is buttered.
    In the end, it would appear that the Zarco/KTM pairing simply didn't work. Can't blame a guy for trying and also should applaud him for stopping when he could see no way forward with the project, for him, and let someone else, ie Binder, have a crack. Two completely different riders with completely different, in fact diametrically opposed, styles, so will he go better? Let's see.
    I remain unconvinced that Zarco will take the Avintia seat, but will be interesting to see if he does.
    It is possible that the only MotoGP bike that will work for Zarco could well be the Yamaha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steveyb View Post
    I remain unconvinced that Zarco will take the Avintia seat, but will be interesting to see if he does.
    It is possible that the only MotoGP bike that will work for Zarco could well be the Yamaha.
    Ummm, it's a done deal. Ducati made Avintia a satellite squad, rather than a customer team so that Zarco would take the ride. Makes Avinita and Zarco happy. Bit unpleasant for Abraham, but there it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    Ummm, it's a done deal. Ducati made Avintia a satellite squad, rather than a customer team so that Zarco would take the ride. Makes Avinita and Zarco happy. Bit unpleasant for Abraham, but there it is.
    There's no official confirmation out there yet but it certainly looks like it will happen.

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    It must be so frustrating when so young you've shown you can start to run with the big boys and then you have to take a 3rd rate bike and can see you ae wasting your time.
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    Looks like his 100s of crashes are catching up with him, can't be great to repeatedly smash your shoulders along the grounds week in week out. Hope he recovers in time for the new season.

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    The racing's over so it's back to hunting out other sources of entertainment.

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    I think Rins could be interesting to watch in the coming season. The Suzuki has been getting faster and faster each season - and he did beat M Marquez in one race ... if Suzuki make more progress this season Rins could be a contender ... finished 4th overall in 2019.

    Quatararo has a season's experience now - could be good to watch .. despite his battles with M Marquez this year he's in fifth - behind the Suzuki
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