MotoGP 2020

**pritch** · 20th August 2020, 20:40

Originally Posted by actungbaby

Aha .yes very true .what's those valve springs jamed in there lol.

Did the rules do away with the pneumatic valve gear? I seem to recall they lowered the maximum revs permitted which pissed Ducati off at the time.

**SaferRides** · 20th August 2020, 21:34

I just had a look at the calendar for the rest of the season. Mostly double headers in Spain plus Misano.

And can someone please explain why F1 is going to Mugello but there is no MotoGP there???

**Autech** · 20th August 2020, 22:13

Originally Posted by manxkiwi

Just watched the slow mo highlights and the start is shown with the lights in the same shot. It doesn't look like Dovi jumped on that one. The main footage had lights inset in the top corner, so perhaps there was a tiny mismatch in the timing of each feed?
Interesting to see the holeshot device (also used on corner exit by Ducati) drops the back end. I'd have thought that's the opposite of what you would want? Back up, front down for starts, like in motocross. Clearly there's something technical going on that I know nothing about. On corner exits you'd have some downforce from the wings, but not at the start. Maybe someone can shed some light?

Best one I have found on the matter
https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/a...p-shapeshifter

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**jim.cox** · 21st August 2020, 04:06

Originally Posted by pritch

they lowered the maximum revs permitted

Isn't racing supposed to be about who can go fastest?

I know racing is full of them, but this sort of bullshit rule, stifling true innovation, that render the whole thing a circus.

Just look at F1. It has a long history of doing this. That's one of the reasons it is so boring...

**pritch** · 21st August 2020, 09:14

Originally Posted by jim.cox

Isn't racing supposed to be about who can go fastest?

I know racing is full of them, but this sort of bullshit rule, stifling true innovation, that render the whole thing a circus.

Just look at F1. It has a long history of doing this. That's one of the reasons it is so boring...

Long time no see?

TPTB decided Honda was likely to use their dual clutch technology, which anybody else would have to develop at great expense, so they banned it.

Honda then developed wildly more expensive gearboxes which everybody else had to develop at huge expense. The dual clutches would have been a lot cheaper.

Best laid plans and all that.

**Bonez** · 21st August 2020, 09:22

Originally Posted by jim.cox

Isn't racing supposed to be about who can go fastest?

I know racing is full of them, but this sort of bullshit rule, stifling true innovation, that render the whole thing a circus.

Just look at F1. It has a long history of doing this. That's one of the reasons it is so boring...

I agree completely Jim. Same goes for the Holden vs Ford bullshit.

Apparently pritch always rides around everywhere at 170kph according to him. Maybe he should go on a race track.

**steveyb** · 21st August 2020, 19:39

Very impressed with what they track people have done in only 4 days with the barrier at T3.
Additional gravel trap (ed: no extended gravel trap), new wall and barrier, tyre wall and airfence.
Looks like it has always been there.

And don't forget Le Mans in winter (mid Oct). That will be interesting.
I can see the leap at Portimao being problematic too.

**Autech** · 21st August 2020, 22:02

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/94...delli-incident

Good, seems Zarco has a biff it in and let the other riders sort it out mentality. Sadly going off his comments seems he's all in his own camp.
He was never making that corner.

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**Reckless** · 21st August 2020, 23:59

Originally Posted by Autech

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/94...delli-incident

Good, seems Zarco has a biff it in and let the other riders sort it out mentality. Sadly going off his comments seems he's all in his own camp.
He was never making that corner.

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Rossi was always going to stick up for Morbidelli and at the eve of his career he is more concerned about making it through with more and closer last minute MM type moves happening these days.
But I think the FIM got that 100% correct with this incident.

**mulletman** · 22nd August 2020, 09:58

Originally Posted by mulletman

Maybe yamaha could see whats up with its valvetrain (?) if its engine was a bit ripped apart ? No need to ask for permission to open it if it is already

Yamaha have withdrawn there application to open up their engines , apparently it will give the other manufacturers a chance to see whats in there by asking why should they be given dispensation and show us the reasoning while apart.

**mulletman** · 22nd August 2020, 10:10

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

Fabio has just started using it in races, I think Miller has been as well.

Simon saw Rossis mechanics swap out a rear shock during FP2 yest and saw the Yamaha holeshot device , it is hooked up to the linkages.

Joan Mir is really happy with Suzukis and said he had his best race start EVER.

**pritch** · 22nd August 2020, 17:08

Brief discussion on social media last night.

Simon suggested that having a broken scaphoid and having to start from pit lane might be such a piss off that Zarco might just can the event.

One of the other journos suggest that might just transfer the penalty to the next event. Better to start, do a few laps, then pull in, pack up, and head home.

Be interesting to see how he goes.

**onearmedbandit** · 22nd August 2020, 17:39

Originally Posted by mulletman

Simon saw Rossis mechanics swap out a rear shock during FP2 yest and saw the Yamaha holeshot device , it is hooked up to the linkages.

Joan Mir is really happy with Suzukis and said he had his best race start EVER.

Yeah was watching that, not that I know shit but I figured it must've been mechanical and in the linkage.