Grace Millane.

[pritch]

Do you think that maybe a skin full of piss may have muddied the cut off waters?

Possibly not. Last I saw he still had name suppression. The main reason that springs to mind as to why that might be is that he has another case in the pipeline. If true, and all eventually becomes clear, that might reduce the random nature of Ms Millane's demise.

With AIDS, herpes, and antibiotic resistant STDs, young ladies using Tinder and such are already playing Russian roulette to an extent. Her situation was already somewhat fraught, the choke thing a matter of degree rather than an on/off situation.

[oldrider]

Meanwhile she is still dead. - Nothing posted on KB is going to change that! -

[husaberg]

Possibly not. Last I saw he still had name suppression. The main reason that springs to mind as to why that might be is that he has another case in the pipeline. If true, and all eventually becomes clear, that might reduce the random nature of Ms Millane's demise.

With AIDS, herpes, and antibiotic resistant STDs, young ladies using Tinder and such are already playing Russian roulette to an extent. Her situation was already somewhat fraught, the choke thing a matter of degree rather than an on/off situation.

Its also a mater of conjecture, just because its something she had done before there is not actual evidence to suggest its something she willingly asked for on this occasion, its solely reliant of the accused testimony, that it was willingly engaged with on her behalf on this occasion. Not only that the convicted murder was caught in a number of other lies.
For all we know he only choked her after she critiqued his small Willie
Also with the diseases men are just as likely to catch them of women as woman are to catch them off men.

[Katman]

Its also a mater of conjecture, just because its something she had done before there is not actual evidence to suggest its something she willingly asked for on this occasion, its solely reliant of the accused testimony, that it was willingly engaged with on her behalf on this occasion.

Except for the fact that no evidence was given to suggest that she put up any sort of struggle.

[MaxPenguin]

So all you guys on here with daughters would give them advice that it is perfectly fine in every way to ask a complete stranger to choke them for kicks?

[Katman]

So all you guys on here with daughters would give them advice that it is perfectly fine in every way to ask a complete stranger to choke them for kicks?

That's precisely the question I've been meaning to ask.

I'm not entirely sure but I think Drew has daughters.

I'll be keen to hear his answer.

[pritch]

Also with the diseases men are just as likely to catch them of women as woman are to catch them off men.

Apparently you have some reading to do. That is not always the case, especially with AIDS.

[husaberg]

Apparently you have some reading to do. That is not always the case, especially with AIDS.

i wasn't meaning the prevalence or likelihood only the fact the virus dont differentiate based on gender.

[Katman]

i wasn't meaning the prevalence or likelihood

Really?

Also with the diseases men are just as likely to catch them of women as woman are to catch them off men.

[FJRider]

Except for the fact that no evidence was given to suggest that she put up any sort of struggle.

One might assume ... the ending of the event ... was not the one she anticipated ...

As far as evidence goes ... or statements made ... only one person alive knows what actually happened.

[Katman]

One might assume ... the ending of the event ... was not the one she anticipated ...

I'm not questioning that at all.

I'm pointing out that the fact that she appears to have put up no struggle suggests that the choking was indeed consensual.

[husaberg]

Really?

Maybe you need to have a look at what was posted. The fact you needed to edit what i posted proves your opinion has ZERO MERIT.

[Katman]

maybe you need to have a look at what was posted.

I did.

And I quoted it.

[Drew]

That's precisely the question I've been meaning to ask.

I'm not entirely sure but I think Drew has daughters.

I'll be keen to hear his answer.

I do have a daughter, and though I'd rather not think about her sex life I respect her right to enjoy it however she likes.

If either of my children are into that kind of thing, they can have at it.

As I've said, I was with a woman who liked it. We had sex the first night we went out. She had spoken about the stuff she liked, and yet I didnt kill her. Even though I had no experience in it.

[Katman]

I do have a daughter, and though I'd rather not think about her sex life I respect her right to enjoy it however she likes.

If either of my children are into that kind of thing, they can have at it.

As I've said, I was with a woman who liked it. We had sex the first night we went out. She had spoken about the stuff she liked, and yet I didnt kill her. Even though I had no experience in it.

And it shouldn't come as any surprise to you Drew that I don't see you as any sort of shining beacon of common sense.