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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post

    Always open to (positive) suggestions as to how we can improve things for motorcyclists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    a paid day off work to attend a rider training experience.
    are these courses a whole day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    Welcome to Windy Wellington. Are you skilled at riding in 140kph gusts.
    Actually that's not fair on Wellytown. I got back 1am Tuesday morning after 4 days solid riding down to Colac Bay (Riverton) and back. The wind through to Manapouri and then from Alex to Palmerston was ...holy shit, put Wellington winds to shame.

    OAB said it well about education and phones. I believe the biggest danger on today's roads is phones and crossing centrelines/cutting corners.

    Too many riders, many experienced who should know better by now, cut corners everywhere. As I always say, you might get away with that if a 1960 Morri Thou is approaching around the blind bend at 42kph. BUT it's more likely a lad pushing his new hot Audi hard or a rider on a sports bike going xxx+ kph will wipe you out.

    I may stretch the 9kph tolerance at times but I never cut corners no matter how much visibility there is.
    hope ya waved as ya went past, so you have now experienced our gentle gale force breezes we get down these ways

    Canty norwesters can be a tad breezy at times also, kinda a bit disconcerting leaning to the right to go round a left hand bend

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    are these courses a whole day?
    Bronze, Silver and Gold courses are a whole day.

    Scooter Survival and Urban Commuter courses are half days.

    Lots of people want to do training at weekends, which is, ironically, why I gave up motorcycle training full time. Working every weekend became a tad tedious. Mates would be out having fun on bikes, while I was working, and I was off when they were working.

    This is an avenue worth exploring. Incentivising employers to give their staff a work day to undergo training in the interest of staff H&S. Worth looking into.

    Remember though, please, I am not in the job until mid January. I'm just looking for inspiration at this stage. I don't want to irritate my new boss (sorry DK) buy appearing too keen.

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    on ya rastus, sometimes like beating ya head against a brick wall this training thing, my answer to the idiots who keep blaming others is pretty standard now,
    "if ya so sure its them then isn't it better to be a better rider to avoid those situations"
    ya can't fix stupid tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by caspernz View Post
    Congrats Pete, had been wondering who would end up filling DK's shoes, now we know.

    R4E gaining wider acceptance by those who actually need it, now that's a neat conundrum.

    Best of luck in the new role and the move to the capital.
    Thanks.

    DKs shoes are big to fill. The programme is excellent already, I'm thinking that it can improve with ideas, but it's already excellent.

    Which is why I applied for the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    Too many riders, many experienced who should know better by now, cut corners everywhere. As I always say, you might get away with that if a 1960 Morri Thou is approaching around the blind bend at 42kph. BUT it's more likely a lad pushing his new hot Audi hard or a rider on a sports bike going xxx+ kph will wipe you out.
    Interesting and timely... I was going along one of my favourite roads on Sunday, tipping into an uphill left hander. Rider 2up coming the other way must have got quite the surprise judging by the way he stood the bike up. That said, with his wheels either on my side of the road or very close to it (exact location wasn't my immediate priority) as you say, riders always expect something slow and lumbering, not a quick moving motorcycle.

    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Remember though, please, I am not in the job until mid January. I'm just looking for inspiration at this stage. I don't want to irritate my new boss (sorry DK) buy appearing too keen.
    Inspiration? You're new to this govt job gig eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    pipe cleaners in your jacket zips.
    so you say you're interested in things that might help but seem to be only picking up on the same things everyone else is it seems?

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    Hate to say it but I think you are on a hiding to nothing. You can play around the edges but in the end bikes are unstable, invisible to some motorists and riders are relatively unprotected. We will continue to feature in the crash stats because of the first two points and will continue to be overrepresented in DSI crashes because of the last one.

    Just bang another 500 bucks on our rego, that should get rid of a few more riders and improve the stats. Sorry, I am a big cynic when it comes to all of this.

    Good luck with the job.



    Pipe cleaners should be hi-viz btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    Hate to say it but I think you are on a hiding to nothing. You can play around the edges but in the end bikes are unstable, invisible to some motorists and riders are relatively unprotected. We will continue to feature in the crash stats because of the first two points and will continue to be overrepresented in DSI crashes because of the last one.

    Just bang another 500 bucks on our rego, that should get rid of a few more riders and improve the stats. Sorry, I am a big cynic when it comes to all of this.

    Good luck with the job.

    Pipe cleaners should be hi-viz btw.
    I've worked in frustrating roles quite a lot. Mostly related to road safety. Theres always thing you can do to influence individuals.

    There is no end game, no nirvana where everyone is safe all the time. But giving up trying is a bit defeatist.

    Theres a spectrum. At one end there are those who just wont engage with education. At the other end are those who actively seek it out. In the middle are those who will engage if they arev incentivised sufficiently to overcome their reluctance.

    Incentives might be intrinsic, or extrinsic. It's the incentives to engage that I see as the key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    Welcome to Windy Wellington. Are you skilled at riding in 140kph gusts.
    Actually that's not fair on Wellytown. I got back 1am Tuesday morning after 4 days solid riding down to Colac Bay (Riverton) and back. The wind through to Manapouri and then from Alex to Palmerston was ...holy shit, put Wellington winds to shame.

    OAB said it well about education and phones. I believe the biggest danger on today's roads is phones and crossing centrelines/cutting corners.

    Too many riders, many experienced who should know better by now, cut corners everywhere. As I always say, you might get away with that if a 1960 Morri Thou is approaching around the blind bend at 42kph. BUT it's more likely a lad pushing his new hot Audi hard or a rider on a sports bike going xxx+ kph will wipe you out.

    I may stretch the 9kph tolerance at times but I never cut corners no matter how much visibility there is.
    Actually 2 weeks back leaving Lumsden and then entering Hokitika was some of the worst wind I've encountered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    pipe cleaners in your jacket zips.
    So we used to use leather strips, but the zip puller eventually breaks one day and small key rings do well as replacement and don't really need extra adornment. But I'm not closed to trying new things. Where would one find a pipe cleaner? We had some Draino somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    So we used to use leather strips, but the zip puller eventually breaks one day and small key rings do well as replacement and don't really need extra adornment. But I'm not closed to trying new things. Where would one find a pipe cleaner? We had some Draino somewhere.
    Zip ties on most of the broken YKK zip pulls at mine.

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    Welcome to the home of NZ's most most popular bike route*
    *by volume of bikes

    Just don't crash on it, I see way too many ambos go that way
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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Zip ties on most of the broken YKK zip pulls at mine.
    Slippery thin plastic often with gloves. Less than ideal Neal.
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