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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    In my humble opinion, there's a hierarchy of improvement.

    Being a cyclist makes you a better motorcyclist. Being a motorcyclist makes you a better car driver.

    That first point might stir up some controversy, but I have found it to be true.
    Yea, I'd have to agree with the 2nd part (and studies will do it too) but as for the 1st part, I'll agree deadly pedley does give you an appreciation of the roading but it also teaches you some really bad habits so I'd take a 50:50 on that one
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    I dunno. Have you ever wondered for a second. Hmm traffic stopped. Can I filter. No wait!! I'm in the car today.
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    I know the rules on filtering and lane splitting very well. I've lectured on them for some years.

    I'm moving to Wellington, from Rangiora, where lane splitting in basically no existent. Mind you, even if I could, I probably wouldn't.

    But in Wellington, I might reconsider. I'll only ever do it legally, as it would be hypocritical to do otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    I know the rules on filtering and lane splitting very well. I've lectured on them for some years.

    I'm moving to Wellington, from Rangiora, where lane splitting in basically no existent. Mind you, even if I could, I probably wouldn't.

    But in Wellington, I might reconsider. I'll only ever do it legally, as it would be hypocritical to do otherwise.
    It's almost a necessity in WellyTown, especially when some Muppet crashes (pretty much every wet day & twice a week)

    I take it by location you're setting up shop Paremata ways?
    Take a trip round Grays Rd, let us know what you think of the speed limit they've set for it; in the interest of fairness start from Paremata Rd & do the loop.
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    Welcome to the great city of Porirua rastuscat
    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    It's almost a necessity in WellyTown, especially when some Muppet crashes (pretty much every wet day & twice a week)

    I take it by location you're setting up shop Paremata ways?

    Take a trip round Grays Rd, let us know what you think of the speed limit they've set for it; in the interest of fairness start from Paremata Rd & do the loop.
    Yes, Paremata.

    Grays Road, on the other side of the harbour. I've ridden that one a few times. Lots, actually. I can understand your frustration, as I used to ride that when I was learning to ride as a Popo. IIRC it was 100 kmh back then.

    Thing is, between 2010 and 2014 there were a stonking number of crashes there. I can also understand why they brought the limit down. Any 5 year period shows a large number of loss of control crashes.

    That's what causes engineers and politicians to bring the limits down. Evidence.

    Ironically, traffic speeds often aren't much more than 60 anyway. Megamaps reports the mean speed as 55 - 59.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Yes, Paremata.

    Grays Road, on the other side of the harbour. I've ridden that one a few times. Lots, actually. I can understand your frustration, as I used to ride that when I was learning to ride as a Popo. IIRC it was 100 kmh back then.

    Thing is, between 2010 and 2014 there were a stonking number of crashes there. I can also understand why they brought the limit down. Any 5 year period shows a large number of loss of control crashes.

    That's what causes engineers and politicians to bring the limits down. Evidence.

    Ironically, traffic speeds often aren't much more than 60 anyway. Megamaps reports the mean speed as 55 - 59.
    Crashes tended to be on the 25km/h corners & not sure the drop to 60km/h has done anything but I know the 1st drop to 80km/h did shit all to nothing to stop them; I'd have a guess the 60km/h is doing shit all to nothing too if not worse as now people are entering at a slower speed so prob has them thinking they can do it at that speed.

    I wouldn't call the change "evidence" the term "Knee jerk" is a better representation. But I have heard rumors the true nature of the decrease is the lower upkeep [read: shittier roads] & allowing them to increase housing along the road (can't confirm either but seems plausible when it comes to councils)

    Yea I could see the mean being round there but that would probably mean the mode is up round 80-90, speeds that road is suited for

    IMO it's not the road that's got worse over the years, it's the drivers. That's not going to get any better while they continue to retard roads to suit the retards, focus is always on the wrong thing; but then stopping people who can't drive from doing so might lose votes & that's more important than public safety
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    Crashes tended to be on the 25km/h corners & not sure the drop to 60km/h has done anything but I know the 1st drop to 80km/h did shit all to nothing to stop them; I'd have a guess the 60km/h is doing shit all to nothing too if not worse as now people are entering at a slower speed so prob has them thinking they can do it at that speed.

    I wouldn't call the change "evidence" the term "Knee jerk" is a better representation. But I have heard rumors the true nature of the decrease is the lower upkeep [read: shittier roads] & allowing them to increase housing along the road (can't confirm either but seems plausible when it comes to councils)

    Yea I could see the mean being round there but that would probably mean the mode is up round 80-90, speeds that road is suited for

    IMO it's not the road that's got worse over the years, it's the drivers. That's not going to get any better while they continue to retard roads to suit the retards, focus is always on the wrong thing; but then stopping people who can't drive from doing so might lose votes & that's more important than public safety
    Bike arrives on 9 January, I'll have a few days to familiarize with the surroundings.

    I'm quite a bit more sedate on the bike now than I used to be. I tend to be risk averse. Reduced speed limits don't cause me angst, and as a result, I live with less angst.

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    It would be nice to meet you, I live in Camborne, so we are almost neighbours!

    The Paremata loop used to be a bit of fun - less so now. Yes, it will be interesting to get your considered feedback on the new speeds there. Yes, accidents have not been uncommon, even the Police/MoT forget which way the road goes now. I'd old enough to remember the MoT officer having too much fun in his patrol car and thought 140 would be more fun around the inlet but he ended up getting his feet and the car in the water. Thankfully for him, his dad was also one of the team (area commander) so no real repercussions!

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    I suspect none of this fiddling with speed limits will make much difference. There are clearly some rural roads on the outskirts of Auckland that should have lower limits, but AT were obviously too busy with more important things.

    Then there is the 80 limit in Dome Valley. A very busy road that has desperately needed safety improvements for years, but no, let's just lower the speed limit instead. That's worked well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodgy View Post
    The Paremata loop used to be a bit of fun - less so now.
    Some biker on a black BMW they are saying is the one that perished on SH58 between James Cook Drive and Joseph Banks Driver yesterday and that is the less curvy part of the road and it is an 80km/hr zone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Bike arrives on 9 January, I'll have a few days to familiarize with the surroundings.

    I'm quite a bit more sedate on the bike now than I used to be. I tend to be risk averse. Reduced speed limits don't cause me angst, and as a result, I live with less angst.
    I've always liked the line of 'Do your machine justice by riding it better'. All our machines are marvels of modern engineering - I don't care what you ride it is an impressive piece of design and human achievement. Therefore I view wanting to ride it better as entirely normal. Having done my recent track day at Taupo on my MV Rivale it was the rider who was the limiting factor, not the machine. The same applies to riding on the roads IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Boy View Post
    I've always liked the line of 'Do your machine justice by riding it better'. All our machines are marvels of modern engineering - I don't care what you ride it is an impressive piece of design and human achievement. Therefore I view wanting to ride it better as entirely normal. Having done my recent track day at Taupo on my MV Rivale it was the rider who was the limiting factor, not the machine. The same applies to riding on the roads IMHO.
    Road riding is a totally different affair. On the track you have no opposing drivers, staying within your lane,stock/animals/pedestrians,cow shit, pea gravel, trucks, cars, caravans, fallen trees etc etc. There's no comparison at all. If you think there is you shouldn't be riding on the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonez View Post
    Road riding is a totally different affair. On the track you have no opposing drivers, staying within your lane,stock/animals/pedestrians,cow shit, pea gravel, trucks, cars, caravans, fallen trees etc etc. There's no comparison at all. If you think there is you shouldn't be riding on the road.
    yeah but a day at the track in controlled situations can leave you to try differnt things, improve, insert that into your memory banks then when out on the roads you can leave that part to what now comes naturally, and your focus is on other things, like girls in scholl uniforms which are rare at the track

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    yeah but a day at the track in controlled situations can leave you to try differnt things, improve, insert that into your memory banks then when out on the roads you can leave that part to what now comes naturally, and your focus is on other things, like girls in scholl uniforms which are rare at the track
    I thought you always wore a skirt at the track Spyda to compensate for that.
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