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    Probably won't leak when it's hot. That's a tiny leak.
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    The leak seems even smaller today. .75 over 30 mins. Looks like I’ll just chuck it back in the bike

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    So now I am having some trouble getting a spark with the zeeltronic. Any help would be appreciated.
    I have it wired up as shown in this diagram. All of the settings are set as per the zeeltronic manual.
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    The resistance on the pick up is 87
    The red-brown wire measures 250
    Also the wires have continuity to the CDI
    I have been spinning the bike over with a drill and the plugs out.

    I have temporarily fitted the Chinese banshee stator and rotor and the Chinese CDI and used the same earth and coil wires and this is providing perfect spark.
    Obviously this won’t allow me to program a curve or run a quickshifter or use the Aprilia dash which is the end goal.

    Maybe someone has a stator kicking around I can test or offer some insight into something I may have overlooked.
    Cheers

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    So starting at the start. Tell us about your battery.
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    I’m just running the rgv battery, it’s showing 12.4v. I’m not running the charging system, just seeing if it’ll spark. Running the red wire to the positive and the - terminal to the chassis which has continuity to the CDIs black wires. I’ll try it again tomorrow and take some pictures of the set up.

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    As you spin it over check voltage does fall to like 10V or you won't get joy.

    Does the Zeel have a test spark feature like the ignitech?
    Disconnect kill and quickshifter to be sure.

    So where is the earth for the unit? Via the stator? Black wire yeah. Measure that is earth.

    Seems odd to me that the stator coils are attached on a DCpowered cdi. Check the pickup coil hasn't been knocked too far away from the magnet of the stator.

    Edit, if you tend toward colour blind like me, I'd double check any red green or brown wires are in fact correct.
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    Voltage stays at 12.2 v when spinning.
    The red and brown wire when tested for AC voltage only crank out about 4-4.5 V
    I disconnected the kill switch and to make sure it wasn’t faulty.

    The set up is a bit of a mess but it’s only temporary.
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    Running out of ideas. Remove the plugs from reedblocks so it turns over faster? Try a faster drill?

    Check at the cdi red and black that you have 12v.
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    I ended up selling the zeeltronic and bought another one to suit the banshee rotor. Unfortunately I broke my wrist on the mx bike and didn’t do anything for a few of months. I finally pulled finger this weekend and got the brakes bled and the bike started. It started first pop but won’t idle without the choke on. The next step is to wind all the air screws in as they were 1-1/2 turns out, see if it idles and if not just throw bigger pilot jets at it until it can idle. Currently the bike is running #50 (might be #52, I can’t exactly remember) for the pilot jets.

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    So presumably you set the idle screws up a bit but no improvement.

    I'd be interested in the needle at its closed position. 50 is a reasonable size pilot. It might not be lean despite choke helping. If the needle diameter is too small it could be pulling through big wet drops of gas at idle when ideally the mix is coming through the pilot cct only.

    The choke is like a mini carburettor drawing its own air and gas. It might be it is delivering a better mixture of atomised burnable fuel/air.
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    When I apply more than 1/4 throttle it just bogs (with the choke on). I could lift the needle too just to see if that helps me to get it running without the choke.

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    Try both ways, it could be waay too rich. Lean will let you slowly eek your way up revs. Rich will just bwoooorh.
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    It’s a shame I couldn’t upload a video. The bike sounds so good now. So I dropped the needle one clip seeing if that would fix it and nothing changed. Then I had a moment of clarity thinking about how my first timing mark on the zeel map was at 2000rpm. . . And the curve before that mark on the graph shows a straight line but it doesn’t work like this in reality. So I added an extra point on the graph and set it to 17.5 degrees @500 rpm then left the rest of the graph the same and now it revs so clean and runs flawlessly.

    I’ll have to lift the needle up again just to make sure it’s safe.
    Work out a main jet size till I can get it on the dyno
    Then shorten the throttle and clutch cables.
    Bleed the rear brake.
    Mount the fairing.
    Then it’s all finished.

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    Sweet. Good thinking,
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    Yesterday I managed to make some little brackets to mount the dash and fairing. It looks like I’ll need to cut more off the belly pan to make it clear properly. I’m also waiting on my air filters to show up before I have a short test ride down the street. Click image for larger version. 

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