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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Rocket surgery is not required. Some basic reading skills may assist?
    Rocket science or brain surgery?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeper View Post
    Rocket science or brain surgery?
    Loving the way this has evolved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    May I quote from the original Herald item? "You can access the original data here."

    https://psm-dm.otago.ac.nz/niqs/

    Rocket surgery is not required. Some basic reading skills may assist?
    That is a link to the crash data.

    Sideshow Bob was talking about "most people who rode are over 40"

    I did some looking because as noted you guys are unable to provide actual data...

    https://www.transport.govt.nz/assets...cling-y812.pdf

    45yrs+ old are 71% of license holders.

    BUT younger people rode more in total.

    People in the 15 - 45 yr bracket rode 51% of the k's.

    So old riders ride less and crash more per k per rider.

    ACC levy increasing based on age seems appropriate.

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    What is more interesting to me is the very very low # of people who have traveled more than 10,000 km in a year?

    A whopping 97% of license holders have NOT traveled more than 100km.

    3% of 450,000 is roughly 13500

    Of the above only 6% traveled more than 10,000km.

    800 people. Roughly.

    An elite crew!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeper View Post
    Rocket science or brain surgery?
    Yes.
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    The most recent one I stumbled across had someone riding through the country side. Looked cool til he took of the helmet and it was some Hipster lol. Everyone knows that Hipsters wouldn't ride a motorbike unless it was electric or powered by used coffee grinds

    I think he was an ACC ad as it was promoting ride forever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Sichoe View Post
    What is more interesting to me is the very very low # of people who have traveled more than 10,000 km in a year?

    A whopping 97% of license holders have NOT traveled more than 100km.

    3% of 450,000 is roughly 13500

    Of the above only 6% traveled more than 10,000km.

    800 people. Roughly.

    An elite crew!

    How do they work out who has done the KM's?
    I've got 5 registered bikes, so are they talking per vehicle?
    DeMyer's Laws - an argument that consists primarily of rambling quotes isn't worth bothering with.

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    Overview
    The New Zealand Household Travel Survey is an ongoing survey of household travel conducted for
    the Ministry of Transport. Each year, people in 4,6001 households throughout New Zealand were
    invited to participate in the survey by recording all their travel over a two-day period. Each person in
    the household was then interviewed about their travel and was also asked about their alcohol
    consumption and other travel-related information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    How do they work out who has done the KM's?
    I've got 5 registered bikes, so are they talking per vehicle?
    Possibly through the readings recorded at WoF times. Per bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Sichoe View Post
    What is more interesting to me is the very very low # of people who have traveled more than 10,000 km in a year?

    A whopping 97% of license holders have NOT traveled more than 100km.

    3% of 450,000 is roughly 13500

    Of the above only 6% traveled more than 10,000km.

    800 people. Roughly.

    An elite crew!
    I find that very hard to believe. I usually ride more than 10,000 km a year, and don't get out that often. I suppose a few 2 or 3 day trips do add up though.

    There must be quite a few commuters who would easily click up 10000 km in a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaferRides View Post
    I find that very hard to believe. I usually ride more than 10,000 km a year, and don't get out that often. I suppose a few 2 or 3 day trips do add up though.

    There must be quite a few commuters who would easily click up 10000 km in a year.

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    You might be right, I was reading the pdf on the toilet and upon re-reading it looks like 'license holders' includes any license, not just Motorcycle license holders.

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    The one I looked at had on the spreadsheet for 2015-2018 40-60 motorcyclists.
    26 interviewed, not exactly representative.

    Where fewer than 60 people were sampled in any group, or where estimates are based on fewer than 100 trip legs, sampling errors may be large and results should be treated with caution.


    https://www.transport.govt.nz/mot-re...y/new-results/
    DeMyer's Laws - an argument that consists primarily of rambling quotes isn't worth bothering with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Sichoe View Post
    ACC levy increasing based on age seems appropriate.
    Still unfair. I don't see why an individual should be penalised simply because they are in a high risk age group, unless that age also reflects inexperience, say under 25's. Personally I would double the ACC levy for those who have claimed and were at fault. Perhaps after a certain claim free period it could come down again.

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    ACC's basic premise is that it's a no blame cover. Penalising people who have claimed would need a legislative change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    Still unfair. I don't see why an individual should be penalised simply because they are in a high risk age group, unless that age also reflects inexperience, say under 25's. Personally I would double the ACC levy for those who have claimed and were at fault. Perhaps after a certain claim free period it could come down again.
    They've already increased the ACC levy. Just because we are more likely to be injured, should we have an accident while riding our motorcycles ...

    What is the difference between that and defining which age group is "More likely" to be involved in an accident and injured ... ??
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