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    "climate change" is just the latest distraction used to keep the population away from important things happening.

    It seems to happen around 10yr cycles: "war on terror", "global financial crisis", "islamic terrorism", etc, etc.

    Once the children are brainwashed into it, it is much simpler to manage. Greta Thunderwhotsit is a prime example of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    And it was your comment about deforestation that suddenly helped me see a truly valid point about 'climate change' - it made me question what is the root cause of 'climate change'?

    Deforestation becomes the root cause.

    I still don't think 'climate change' is the catastrophe that it's being portrayed as though.

    I just wish we'd clean the place up some.
    While deforestation is natural and potentially a root cause in its own right, under the context that we're seeing it happen currently, technically it's a symptom of our financially driven land use.

    Like anything really, catastrophe may well be at the end of a sequence of events that see 6 out of 7 conditions met, or it may be instantaneous because the right areas is "taken out". As such there really is no single root cause that we can do much of anything about outwith our economic activity. It mirrors nature and not in a "good" way. Nature never produced exhaust gas and allowed animals in their billions/trillions to screw whenever they liked and fart unquantifiable methane packed farts without being taxed etc..., which leaves reliable data even more open to being bullshit.

    Yeah, the kids asking the adults to clean their home has a sweet ironic ring to it... especially as the adults have said no
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    With an increasing human population ... an increasing need to feed and clothe them .... plus the effect that increase in population has on our planet.

    Our simple survival is at risk. Simple solution ... reduce the numbers. Volunteers might be needed to slow the changes ...
    6.08 billion people live on 0.34 sustainable planets. I reckon the 1.52 billion that use the remaining 1.36 sustainable planets will be shaking in their boots. As such, you've already volunteered ... and by default I have too, which is a bit of a pisser really as I don;t believe that I'm getting good value for money
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    While deforestation is natural and potentially a root cause in its own right, under the context that we're seeing it happen currently, technically it's a symptom of our financially driven land use.
    That's why I said later, the root cause was greed.

    Deforestation isn't natural - it's man made and driven by greed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    6.08 billion people live on 0.34 sustainable planets. I reckon the 1.52 billion that use the remaining 1.36 sustainable planets will be shaking in their boots. As such, you've already volunteered ... and by default I have too, which is a bit of a pisser really as I don;t believe that I'm getting good value for money

    Fuck off with your sustainable planets rubbish already.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    That's why I said later, the root cause was greed.

    Deforestation isn't natural - it's man made and driven by greed.
    So you live in the forest or do you live in a cleared area of forest "DUDE"
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    My greatest fear is that it might come out that some of these fires were started by 'climate change' activists.

    That could serve genuine environmentalists a crippling blow worldwide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    I reminder distinctly .




    Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Deforestation isn't natural - it's man made and driven by greed.
    It is both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austingtir View Post
    Fuck off with your sustainable planets rubbish already.
    Nah fuck it. List.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by austingtir View Post
    Fuck off with your sustainable planets rubbish already.

    Fuck off...........


    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    So you live in the forest or do you live in a cleared area of forest "DUDE"
    Fuck off...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberk View Post
    So you live in the forest or do you live in a cleared area of forest "DUDE"
    ..........

    Quote Originally Posted by husaberk View Post
    what is totally predictable is you following me around and trolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    And I place environmental issues as one of my top considerations when voting.

    So I don't question the fact that we're treating this planet like shit and polluting the fuck out of it.

    But I'm convinced that someone's winning out of this whole 'climate change' thing, who shouldn't be winning.
    Well, Fuck.

    Another thing we somewhat agree on. Although, I suspect from vastly different perspectives, considering I'm in the Margaret Thatcher school of thought:

    "The new dogma about climate change has swept through the left-of-centre governing classes."
    ...
    "provides a marvellous excuse for worldwide, supra-national socialism".
    Not to mention I've got textbooks from the 1970s and 1980s making all sorts of dire predictions, All that were derived by the same statistical, predictive and experimental methodologies that produced the current 'Climate Crisis' figures and all turned out to be wrong

    The most frustrating thing is whilst I'm a dyed-in-the-wool capitalist:

    Would I like to see less Plastics - Yes, Go invent something Bio-degradeable that does all the things (or some of the things) that Plastic Does.
    Would I like to see more Green Energy - Yes, Go figure out how to make tidal flow generators that consistently work and don't break in a Storm.
    Would I like to see more Electric Vehicles - Yes, Constant torque all throughout the rev range - Go invent battery technology or a system that can recharge in the same time it takes to refuel.

    Give me a better alternative and like the Capitalist I am, I'll use that. Give me some piss weak alternative that works like shit but you try to prop up with 'but muh environment' and I'll tell you to fuck off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Well, Fuck.

    Another thing we somewhat agree on. Although, I suspect from vastly different perspectives, considering I'm in the Margaret Thatcher school of thought:



    Not to mention I've got textbooks from the 1970s and 1980s making all sorts of dire predictions, All that were derived by the same statistical, predictive and experimental methodologies that produced the current 'Climate Crisis' figures and all turned out to be wrong

    The most frustrating thing is whilst I'm a dyed-in-the-wool capitalist:

    Would I like to see less Plastics - Yes, Go invent something Bio-degradeable that does all the things (or some of the things) that Plastic Does.
    Would I like to see more Green Energy - Yes, Go figure out how to make tidal flow generators that consistently work and don't break in a Storm.
    Would I like to see more Electric Vehicles - Yes, Constant torque all throughout the rev range - Go invent battery technology or a system that can recharge in the same time it takes to refuel.

    Give me a better alternative and like the Capitalist I am, I'll use that. Give me some piss weak alternative that works like shit but you try to prop up with 'but muh environment' and I'll tell you to fuck off.
    That's a great attitude and one that will help whatever your left/right leanings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    It is both.
    I'm interested to know how you see deforestation as being a 'natural' phenomenon.

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