Australia Fire storm.

[jasonu]

On an aside - Metallica donated a bunch of cash to the Australian wild fire effort - with no mention of Politics, Climate Change other other Agenda in the press release other than 'Here's some money to help with a terrible situation'

Many people would do well to follow that example.

Yep $500,000
They specified the money go to rural efforts.
Good on them.

[mashman]

I wonder how many of the people moaning about the Aussie government not fronting up due to lack of money, have participated in tax free cashies.

Par for the course to stay ahead really innit. Our collective inability to react shouldn't be pinned on any one or any thing other than our collective inability to react. Like the earthquakes in Chch. Untrained personnel got stuck in for as long as they could get time off work, but once work called, they had to go back. Similarly with the fires. At some point people who are volunteering to save others are going to have to go back to work... or at least will be sidetracked trying to keep their shit together as they literally watch the world burn about them. Our collective inability to react accordingly is the issue that needs a finger pointed at it. It gets away with it almost every time because we can hang some one or blame some thing for how an event started. Some kids starting fires and tax "dodging" for principle or for gain doesn't really make a blind bit of difference (other than some extra funds to fight the fire maybe) v's what we didn't/couldn't do and why. Coz when we address the didn't/couldn't, then the next time there won't be the same issues. As such you could chuck NESARA/GESARA cash at the problem and it wouldn't prepare us for next time......... Meh

[mashman]

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...29-p53fds.html

If contracts have been signed, then the coffers are empty and will remain so until they elect a government that will cancel the contracts... and do the other stuff to of course ...

[TheDemonLord]

Yep $500,000
They specified the money go to rural efforts.
Good on them.

Just as well they donated Money.

I don't think taking advise from their songs would help:

Fight fire with fire
or
Blackened
or
Fuel

[FJRider]

Without a doubt, paying more than you are legally required is just dumb. Lying about how much you should have to pay is different and in certain situations illegal.

Tax evasion is considered to be quite serious in most countries (by the governments). Al Capone was jailed for it. It was the only crime they could pin on him.

[FJRider]

There was an Economist I think (could be wrong on their occupation) who outlined an argument about Tax Loopholes and it was something like:

"It is everyone's Civic duty to pay the least amount of Tax legally" - they went on to outline points around it's a bulwark against lazy law making, government overreach etc. etc. Was an interesting Point of View.

All the "Rich Pricks" are often accused of not paying much in the way of tax. But if they only pay what they are legally required to pay ... using whatever loophole's they are legally allowed to use ... what is the issue .. ???

The NZ tax laws are not that exciting ... but if there are ways of not paying as much as you are now ... perhaps we should look a bit harder at those rules ...

[Jeeper]

There is a big difference between tax evasion (illegal) and tax optimization (legal).

[FJRider]

There is a big difference between tax evasion (illegal) and tax optimization (legal).

But the not paying much tax if you're rich ... sort of pisses off those with not much money and still gets taxed (seemingly heavily) ... at normal rates.

The fact they never actually looked for tax reduction possibilities is seldom ever considered in any of their thought processes..

With the average Joe ... now not required to do their own tax return nowadays ... they seem (to them) hard done by.


But you still can file your own tax return.

[F5 Dave]

I remember sticker about Venus and Mars tonight. About 79. Not sure but I wasn't cool enough to find out where they came from so I never had one.

Sad.

[Katman]

Sad.

I'm sad for you.

[F5 Dave]

Thank you Katman that means a lot especially from you.

[ellipsis]

..I'm nonplussed...but I'm not exactly sure about what, yet...I must have to learn to worry a lot more about the inevitabilities of life on a living planet, run by silly, humans...the story about the little Dutch boy with his finger in the Dyke doesn't cut the mustard when it comes to tectonics, a completely changing sphere we live on, tidal movements dictated by weather situations that have changed constantly over millenia due to ice, heat , ice , heat, other extraterrestrial shit happening, sun fluctuations and more volcanic intrusions and then more shit and multitudes of extinctions before any thing with half a brain could scratch it's own arse and smile...

...all this, we can save the planet shit is really just drivel...we are here until Gaia, Mother Nature shifts the goal posts, again...any wank that has strong opinions on what humans can do to stop whats gonna happen next is, well...a bit silly

[MaxPenguin]

..I'm nonplussed...but I'm not exactly sure about what, yet...I must have to learn to worry a lot more about the inevitabilities of life on a living planet, run by silly, humans...the story about the little Dutch boy with his finger in the Dyke doesn't cut the mustard when it comes to tectonics, a completely changing sphere we live on, tidal movements dictated by weather situations that have changed constantly over millenia due to ice, heat , ice , heat, other extraterrestrial shit happening, sun fluctuations and more volcanic intrusions and then more shit and multitudes of extinctions before any thing with half a brain could scratch it's own arse and smile...

...all this, we can save the planet shit is really just drivel...we are here until Gaia, Mother Nature shifts the goal posts, again...any wank that has strong opinions on what humans can do to stop whats gonna happen next is, well...a bit silly

True, saving the planet is a dumb catchphrase.

[FJRider]

A few years ago, the hole in the Ozone layer was the big worry. The planet was doomed (apparently) if we didn't sort it out quick smart.

But now the hole is the smallest it's been. Due (apparently) to unprecedented warm weather patterns. But (apparently) there is no evidence it's due to Climate change. Go figure ...

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard...-its-discovery

[FJRider]

True, saving the planet is a dumb catchphrase.

Dumb ideas are only dumb if they don't work.

Saving the Planet gets people thinking (not always an easy task) and doing (well ... some are doing) stuff ....