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    Gotten

    Gotten. This word drives me crazy. Stupid American bastardisation of our written word.

    Example "And that's before we have even gotten into the fact that she was in a new country with no family and without her longtime, trusted circle of friends."

    gotten into the fact!!!??? The Editor should be fired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ust2b View Post
    Gotten. This word drives me crazy. Stupid American bastardisation of our written word.

    Example "And that's before we have even gotten into the fact that she was in a new country with no family and without her longtime, trusted circle of friends."

    gotten into the fact!!!??? The Editor should be fired.
    Take a pill princess.
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    It's just a shortened version of Got´ten- to get. Nothing to do with the yanks at all.

    Nothing to see here folks. Move along please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ust2b View Post
    Gotten. This word drives me crazy. Stupid American bastardisation of our written word.

    Example "And that's before we have even gotten into the fact that she was in a new country with no family and without her longtime, trusted circle of friends."

    gotten into the fact!!!??? The Editor should be fired.
    Drives me batshit too. Often it appears to be a lack of a decent vocabulary. One american written book I had become (gotten) annoyed with after they used it half a dozen times before I had got (gotten) to the bottom of th page. There's so many wonderful words in the english language: purchased/ acquired/ obtained an item, contracted a disease from, became inured to... or just plain got, the past tense of get. The list goes on, this is just lifted (gotten) from the top of my head.

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    Language is constantly evolving. If you get yer knockers in a twist wiv every lil change, youl pop an artery afore your timezup, guv.

    Some of the present-day differences between 'British English' and 'American English' go way back to spellings/pronunciations that were common when the Brits first discovered the continent (OK, invaded!). Back then, fewer people were literate, hence some of the written differences. Others have crept in since and are still creeping in.

    Same thing with 'Kiwi English', bro, and 'Aussie English', cobber. There are pronunciations and 'turns of phrase' that are uniquely NZ and Oz, just as there are uniquely British ones. Even within the countries, there are regional differences - not just 'accents' but different ways of expressing things using particular words and terms that are uncommon or unknown ("unknowen") elsewhere.

    Same again with txt-spk, emoticons , jargon, pro' terms, abbrev's, acronyms and more. Within social groups, language is simply a means of communicating. So long as the meaning is sufficiently clear to the people directly involved, the opinions of third parties are largely irrelevant ... unless the content concerns them.

    Despite the extreme care in drafting and approving laws and regulations, ambiguous language is a massive problem for the legal profession - well, a massive opportunity for those intent on exploiting the uncertainties to argue one way or the other (at the client's expense, naturally).

    As if that's not enough already, our writing varies too. Can you even guess the meaning of those beautiful medieval illustrated manufcriptf, written with extreme care by experts of the day? Even on the Web, some of us prefer serif or nonserif fonts, different sizes, colours (or colors) and more.

    Embrace the diversity! Language is a fascinating tool!

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    So nice to see your face again
    Tell me how long has it been
    Since you've been here
    (since you've been here)
    You look so different than before
    But still the person I adore
    Frozen with fear
    I'm out of love but I'll take it from the past
    I'll let out words cause I'm sure It'll never last

    And I've been saving
    These last words for one last miracle
    But now I'm not sure
    I can't save you if
    You don't let me
    You just get me like I never
    Been gotten before
    Don't you look at my accountant.
    He's the only one I've got.

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    Maybe it's the bitter wind
    A chill from the Pacific rim
    That brought you this way
    (that brought you my way)
    Do not make me think of him
    The way he touch your fragile skin
    That hunts me everyday
    I'm out of love but I can't forget the past
    I'm out of words but I'm sure it'll never last

    And I've been saving
    These last words for one last miracle
    Don't you look at my accountant.
    He's the only one I've got.

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    But now I'm not sure
    I can't save you if
    You don't let me
    You just get me like I never
    Been gotten before
    Don't you look at my accountant.
    He's the only one I've got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ust2b View Post
    Gotten. This word drives me crazy. Stupid American bastardisation of our written word.

    Example "And that's before we have even gotten into the fact that she was in a new country with no family and without her longtime, trusted circle of friends."

    gotten into the fact!!!??? The Editor should be fired.
    The past tense form of get is got. The past participle of got is gotten. A past participle is a word that's used with had, have or has. Therefore, it's perfectly acceptable to use gotten if it's being used with its companion word. ... That said, I still don't like the word. But still use it. (But I haven't gotten around to NOT using it)

    It's in the dictionary ... so you can use it in Scrabble. Therefore it is a real word.
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    Language changes over time it's true. Almost every day now I see posts, usually US in origin where the letter 'd' is missed off the end of a word. What is that about? Perhaps we should resist change that's too sudden.

    A few years ago some NZ teachers wanted to make US spelling acceptable in our schools because that was the language computers used. These luddites were blissfully unaware that the language is just a setting and that it's easily changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Language changes over time it's true. Almost every day now I see posts, usually US in origin where the letter 'd' is missed off the end of a word. What is that about? Perhaps we should resist change that's too sudden.

    A few years ago some NZ teachers wanted to make US spelling acceptable in our schools because that was the language computers used. These luddites were blissfully unaware that the language is just a setting and that it's easily changed.
    Maybe they are expressing their chagrin about not having gotten the D for a while?

    Be fair, NZ English has only been in most apps for a couple of years.
    It's still not a native option in many applications.

    Worse the grammar checkers are hopeless.

    Rely on spelling and grammar check? Yeah nah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dog View Post
    Be fair, NZ English has only been in most apps for a couple of years.
    British English has been around long enough - and was near enough. The spellings were the same as NZ, and it was the spelling which was their issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonu View Post
    Take a pill princess.
    Hit a nerve did I sweetie?
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    How many here have NEVER said ... "I haven't gotten around to it yet" ... ???

    I don't see ... or know ... how the Americans could be blamed for inventing the word.

    I might have once know ... but I've probably forgotten ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ust2b View Post
    Hit a nerve did I sweetie?
    Not at all m8
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