The 2020 Election Thread

[Oakie]

Well with the promises starting to flow and posturing begining, it's time for the 2020 Election Thread.

Simon Bridges has said that National will not form a coalition with NZ First. This is quite a clever move as it makes it black and white that a vote for NZ First is a vote for a Labour led government. IMHO it'll probably contribute largely to NZF polling less than 5% and being a non-entity as far as government is concerned. On the other hand, write off Winston at your peril!

Simon Bridges polling bugger all as preferred PM so I guess the Nats will be pushing policy and not personality. Probably too late for a change now ... but Labour did it very succesfully last time and much later. Don't know who you'd change him for. Judith Collins seems to be getting some traction but she comes with too much baggage so ... ? Actually I feel sorry for him. He gets criticised for a slow uninspiring speaking voice but this comes from years of being a trial lawyer where slow and clear delivery are required.

Housing to be a big issue again.

Doubtless gangs / crime to be targetted (as always)

Go ...

[Bonez]

I can asure you gang housing is top notch having two in my street.

[TheDemonLord]

Nz First out of Parliament.
Greens loose a few seats.
Labour gain a few seats.
National stay at were they are.
Act gain a few seats.

Act National coalition.

[frogfeaturesFZR]

Nz First out of Parliament.
Greens loose a few seats.
Labour gain a few seats.
National stay at were they are.
Act gain a few seats.

Act National coalition.

Works for me.

Ps, Seymour for police minister

[pritch]

Simon Bridges polling bugger all as preferred PM so I guess the Nats will be pushing policy and not personality.

He'll be lucky to survive until the election, Paula and Crusher will be sharpening their knives.

[Oakie]

He'll be lucky to survive until the election, Paula and Crusher will be sharpening their knives.

If the Nats were behind in the polls then they might change, but they are ahead so it would be risky to change. I can't really see Crusher or Bennett being significantly more popular than Bridges and both could be attacked on their history. (Funny thing ... I couldn't remember Bridges' name for a minute then.)

[sidecar bob]

Jacinda is honing her turkey nod with this Winston SFO thing.
I hope shes got a good chiropractor.

[Swoop]

So, all those liarbour promises were kept then:
Child poverty ended.
Housing crisis solved.
Roads all fixed and running freely.
Public transport running on time.
Retail shops booming due to the Amazon Tax.

[husaberg]

Jacinda is honing her turkey nod with this Winston SFO thing.
I hope shes got a good chiropractor.

In your opinion how does Winston's situation differ from Simons with the Mongolian horse riders associations donations.
Other than he claims he was unaware of it an Simon was clearly caught on tape giving directions about hiding donations.......
Interested to hear your opinion?

Simon Bridges polling bugger all as preferred PM so I guess the Nats will be pushing policy and not personality. Probably too late for a change now ... but Labour did it very succesfully last time and much later. Don't know who you'd change him for. Judith Collins seems to be getting some traction but she comes with too much baggage so ... ? Actually I feel sorry for him. He gets criticised for a slow uninspiring speaking voice but this comes from years of being a trial lawyer where slow and clear delivery are required.
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I dont buy the Simon speech patterns are because he was a trial lawyer, as he simply wasn't one for that long at all. Hes been an MP for far longer.
He moved to Tauraunga and became a prosecuter in 2001 he joined Parliament in 2008 but in the mean time he traveled to the UK gained a masters from Oxford met and married his wife and also studied at the London school of Economics and later worked as an intern at the UK house of commons.

Now that does not leave much time for trial lawyering does it.......
He simply has all the charisma of a damp squid.
As i have said before he reminds me of a smarmy kid whose been given a management job as his dad owns the company.

[Murray]

Nz First out of Parliament.

All going to depend on Shane Jones he's splashed so much money on the North its possible he will be voted in!!

[Danger Mouse]

He'll be lucky to survive until the election, Paula and Crusher will be sharpening their knives.

Bridges will lose the election for national and get rolled shortly after for the ex air new Zealand ceo.

[oldrider]

Bridges will lose the election for national and get rolled shortly after for the ex air new Zealand ceo.

True! - But? (Could even happen sooner?)

There are so many scenarios available to all of them to take and if they actually played them all to best effect - how much benefit would it create for the taxpaying voters of the country? - My bet? - NONE!

[jasonu]

He simply has all the charisma of a damp squid.
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While I agree with that, as someone else said the party is polling well so it doesn't look like it will matter.
Labour has failed miserably in keeping its election promises. That coupled with all the other blunders horseface has mishandled, Curran, Lees Galloway, that Murray woman who yelled at her people for missing that photo opportuniddy, etc National has a great chance.

[sidecar bob]

In your opinion how does Winston's situation differ from Simons with the Mongolian horse riders associations donations.
Other than he claims he was unaware of it an Simon was clearly caught on tape giving directions about hiding donations.......
Interested to hear your opinion?
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I dont have an opinion, im simply bemused by the body language of her & Winnie on the news last nite.
You could see they were in some kind of shit even with the TV on mute.

[TheDemonLord]

All going to depend on Shane Jones he's splashed so much money on the North its possible he will be voted in!!

Maybe, however a lot of Rural Voters who were NZ First voters are both pissed at them getting into bed with Labour in the first place (never a good idea to cross the floor in a coalition) and also a good number of them where LFOs.

It's hard to sell Northland that "We didn't have any money to invest in infrastructure" then magically find $100+ Million behind the couch for your ideological pet project.