The 2020 Election Thread

[JimO]

As was Moore.

Ardern is the most popular PM in a Hundred years

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wow a hundred years? how do you know that? why not 105 years or 96 years or are you really as big a fuckwit as you come across on here?

[Katman]

….or are you really as big a fuckwit as you come across on here?

Hmmm, that's a tough one.

What was the first option again?

[husaberg]

Jacinda Ardern is the most popular New Zealand PM in more than a CENTURY after leading country through the Christchurch mosque massacre, White Island eruption and coronavirus pandemic
Jacinda Ardern scored 59.5 per cent as NZ's preferred leader in the latest poll
It's the highest score for any leader in the history of Newshub-Reid Research poll
Ms Ardern's Labour also jumped to 56.5 per cent- the highest party score ever
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-pandemic.html

Jacinda Ardern became New Zealand’s most popular prime minister in a century, a Newshub-Reid Research poll showed on Monday, thanks to her COVID-19 response that made the country among the most successful in curbing the spread of the diseaseThe first public poll since the coronavirus crisis took hold showed popularity for Ardern’s Labour jumped 14 points to 56.5% – the highest for any party ever.
Conversely, the biggest party in parliament – the Nationals, slumped to 30.6%, after sliding by 12.7 points.https://www.reuters.com/article/us-n...-idUSKBN22U0PI

Ardern most popular PM in a century; National plummets
https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star...ional-plummets

Only problem then was the incumbent PM and national leader then was Bill English whereas the incumbent now is the most popular PM in a 100 years..

only with people who believe in fairy dust and head nods.

My opinion is based on the results of polls, as below. Exactly what is your opinion based on.....
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/jacinda-...ury-poll-shows
https://www.britishherald.com/ardern...-in-100-years/

my opinion is based on the fact she is useless

wow a hundred years? how do you know that? why not 105 years or 96 years or are you really as big a fuckwit as you come across on here?

Lets see you are the guy that claims your opinions are facts and when challenged instead of being able to substantiate your claims, you instead give out abuse and run off and hide.
Perversely it seems for reasons of narcissism think of it as a win anyway.
There is a name for that, its called steving.

ps i am genuinely sorry your preferred political party is disintegrating, also for your obvious buthurt feelings, as it clearly upsets you.
I suspect they will do better if they get a leader who never belonged to the party in the last 40 years. rather than trotting out a tired old battleax with a dubious past of financial dealing and leaked information.
Clearly the best way to save the party is to get people from outside the party to lead it.

[TheDemonLord]

Lets see you are the guy that claims your opinions are facts and when challenged instead of being able to substantiate your claims, you instead give out abuse and run off and hide.
Perversely it seems for reasons of narcissism think of it as a win anyway.
There is a name for that, its called steving.

ps i am genuinely sorry your preferred political party is disintegrating, also for your obvious buthurt feelings, as it clearly upsets you.
I suspect they will do better if they get a leader who never belonged to the party in the last 40 years. rather than trotting out a tired old battleax with a dubious past of financial dealing and leaked information.
Clearly the best way to save the party is to get people from outside the party to lead it.

You should take a peak at what happened in the US and in Britain, NZ is normally 5-10 years behind.

[FJRider]

... Ardern is the most popular PM in a Hundred years and Chrusher ,whilst more popular than Bridges ,Is about as popular as a turd in a goldfish bowl

As far as Shipley goes ... she's still a legend for getting the better of Winston Peters ... whom she sacked from her cabinet in 1998.

She did lower the drinking age to 18 which made herself popular in some sectors. Never mind the whole first women PM thing ... (elected or not). Not a bad effort for a "Caretaker" PM ...


But the most popular PM was Michael Joseph Savage, 1935-1940. For decades ... portraits of him hung in thousands of homes. When he died ... 50,000 mourners filed past his casket. Have you got a portrait of Jacinda on your wall .. ????

And it's been 80 years since his death.

Your "Most popular PM in 100 years" ... seems a little dramatic wouldn't you say ... ??


For a bit of light reading ... a rather funny (and blunt) explanation and description of the Prime Minister popularity stakes in NZ politics.

Read it ... you might learn something.


https://www.vice.com/en_nz/article/7...est-to-coolest

[FJRider]

Lets see you are the guy that claims your opinions are facts and when challenged instead of being able to substantiate your claims, you instead give out abuse and run off and hide.
Perversely it seems for reasons of narcissism think of it as a win anyway.
There is a name for that, its called steving.

You are are hardly in a position to accuse anybody of that ... considering your past history of doing EXACTLY that ... :

[FJRider]

wow a hundred years? how do you know that? why not 105 years or 96 years or are you really as big a fuckwit as you come across on here?

Actually it was only 80 years.

But whats 20 years ... give or take .. ??

[Katman]

Read it ... you might learn something.


https://www.vice.com/en_nz/article/7...est-to-coolest

To be fair, the article was written prior to JA being elected Prime Minister.

[TheDemonLord]

To be fair, the article was written prior to JA being elected Prime Minister.

And it's from Vice - so the fact that 4 out of the top 5 just so happen to be Labour Prime Ministers, is of course, no co-incidence....

[Katman]

And it's from Vice - so the fact that 4 out of the top 5 just so happen to be Labour Prime Ministers, is of course, no co-incidence....

From what I remember of Prime Ministers during my lifetime, the article is fairly close to the money though.

And while not from my lifetime, I distinctly reminder (the Berk will love that one) the portrait of Michael Joseph Savage hanging on my Grandparents wall right up into the 1980s.

I doubt any other Prime Minister has come close to that level of admiration.

[TheDemonLord]

From what I remember of Prime Ministers during my lifetime, the article is fairly close to the money though.

And while not from my lifetime, I distinctly reminder (the Berk will love that one) the portrait of Michael Joseph Savage hanging on my Grandparents wall right up into the '80s.

I doubt any other Prime Minister has come close to that level of admiration.

I admittedly read up on him - 2 things that jumped out at me:

1: Dying in Office
2: Was the PM for the start of WW2

Those 2 things alone are grounds to be remembered exceedingly fondly.

As for the ranking in the Article - There's a few that I'd disagree with - William Massey and Richard Seddon for example.

[FJRider]

To be fair, the article was written prior to JA being elected Prime Minister.

To be fair ... I never stated otherwise. And ... I did point out it was 80 years (not 100) since Savage's death.

[Swoop]

Well, the PR stunt of a wedding for the leader of the labour party is "postponed"...

Wouldn't have anything to do with a certain shag with the nanny, perhaps? (Better put "allegedly" here I guess)

[ellipsis]

Well, the PR stunt of a wedding for the leader of the labour party is "postponed"...

Wouldn't have anything to do with a certain shag with the nanny, perhaps? (Better put "allegedly" here I guess)

...beats me where they have the time to keep goats...

[Katman]

Well, the PR stunt of a wedding for the leader of the labour party is "postponed"...

Wouldn't have anything to do with a certain shag with the nanny, perhaps? (Better put "allegedly" here I guess)

Has Judith appointed you as head of her Dirty Politics campaign?