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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Maybe, however a lot of Rural Voters who were NZ First voters are both pissed at them getting into bed with Labour in the first place (never a good idea to cross the floor in a coalition) and also a good number of them where LFOs.

    It's hard to sell Northland that "We didn't have any money to invest in infrastructure" then magically find $100+ Million behind the couch for your ideological pet project.
    Just like Tauranga.
    In 2016 National had signed the contract to have the dangerous section of SH2 between Tauranga & Katikati upgraded.
    As soon as Labour got into power they cancelled that contract. This month Labour reinstated the same contract.
    How gullible & stupid do they think the average voter actually is?
    Of course theyre going to get another term, off the success of Kiwibuild alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    Just like Tauranga.
    In 2016 National had signed the contract to have the dangerous section of SH2 between Tauranga & Katikati upgraded.
    As soon as Labour got into power they cancelled that contract. This month Labour reinstated the same contract.
    How gullible & stupid do they think the average voter actually is?
    Of course theyre going to get another term, off the success of Kiwibuild alone.
    Yes how gullible do you think people are indeed
    National released on the 19th December 2019.
    that “More detail will be released in 2020 about which projects we will commit to, but we’re interested in feedback on upgrading the following routes to four-lane expressway standard:
    Tauranga to Katikati, including the Tauranga Northern Link
    https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA19...r-national.htm
    They never progressed beyond the talking about it stage. Do you understand they never committed the funding it was not cancelled it was never commited to happening they never completed or initiated the projects funding or approvial.
    https://www.nzta.govt.nz/projects/sh...anga-corridor/

    They then asked Labor to commit the funding for it it was not cancelled as you suggested.
    Your suggestions are both fase and attempting to mislead.


    Support the Katikati to Tauranga Road of National Significance
    In 2017 the National Government announced a new Road of National Significance stretching from Tauranga to Katikati. This project is vital for the growth of the Bay of Plenty region. It will help improve road safety, travel times and boost regional economic growth.

    Labour has not committed to this road project.

    We are asking the Government to commit to funding this Road of National Significance including:
    A full continuous four-lane motorway from Tauranga to Katikati;
    A grade separated connection from Omokoroa onto SH2;
    The Katikati bypass.
    Add your name, and let Phil Twyford know that he needs to back our regions.
    https://scottsimpson.national.org.nz...ti_to_tauranga
    https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/hans...o-10-transport
    Chris Bishop: Why did the New Zealand Transport Agency not reallocate all of the $313 million straight back into the State highway improvements activity class, when that activity class has been cut by $5 billion over the next decade, meaning that critical projects like the Tauranga Northern Link, Melling interchange, and Ōtaki to Levin have been cancelled or delayed?

    Hon PHIL TWYFORD: .....the member's broader point is that there is a list of projects that are ready to fund, including safety upgrades and including State highway projects, but this Government is not going to give a blank cheque to a dozen motorway projects that were promised by the last Government, and all but two of them were not funded or designated. They are ghost roads.


    Chris Bishop: Does he stand by his comment that the 12 re-evaluated projects he's just mentioned have very low economic value; if so, why?

    Hon PHIL TWYFORD: It's my view that very few, if any, of those—the second generation so-called roads of national significance that National promised—would exceed a benefit-cost ratio of one. They weren't funded. They weren't designated, with a couple of exceptions. They were campaign promises—the worst of pork-barrel politics. Meanwhile, this Government is getting on with investing—for example, $1.4 billion in safety upgrades across 3,500 kilometres of roading network that will save 160 deaths and serious injuries every year.
    Chris Bishop: Is he seriously saying to the House that projects like the Tauranga Northern Link—which was funded, consented, and out for procurement—and projects like the Melling interchange and the Ōtaki to Levin project—
    Hon Simon Bridges: Can the Minister confirm that the Tauranga Northern Link was approved for funding by the then NZTA board, and can he also confirm that nothing else needs to happen, short of signing the cheque?

    Hon PHIL TWYFORD: The Tauranga Northern Link was—the route was designated, but it was not funded under the last Government.

    Chris Bishop: Is he seriously saying that those important projects are of low economic value?

    Hon PHIL TWYFORD: What I'm saying—and the member's quite wrong in his question—is the Tauranga Northern Link was designated but not a single cent was allocated to it in National's last plan—not a single cent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    How gullible & stupid do they think the average voter actually is?
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    The same voters that voted for them last time? Very gullible and stupid apparently.
    Lets go Brandon

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonu View Post
    The same voters that voted for them last time? Very gullible and stupid apparently.
    Doing the same thing and expecting a different result? - Hello? - But hey that applies to all the other parties and their supporters as well - and then MMP is an unknown/unexpected ending - "Raffle result"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murray View Post
    All going to depend on Shane Jones he's splashed so much money on the North its possible he will be voted in!!
    Depends on how much leaks out, regarding the $$$'s siphoned into his and winnie's lawyer's accounts from the tree-planting bullshit.
    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    This month Labour reinstated the same contract.
    How gullible & stupid do they think the average voter actually is?
    A: "Very".
    TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Yes how gullible do you think people are indeed
    National released on the 19th December 2019.

    They never progressed beyond the talking about it stage. Do you understand they never committed the funding it was not cancelled it was never commited to happening they never completed or initiated the projects funding or approvial.
    https://www.nzta.govt.nz/projects/sh...anga-corridor/

    They then asked Labor to commit the funding for it it was not cancelled as you suggested.
    Your suggestions are both fase and attempting to mislead.
    That kept you busy for half an hour, well done
    Let me know how much I owe you for rent inside your head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    That kept you busy for half an hour, well done
    Let me know how much I owe you for rent inside your head.
    Really, it took a few minutes to prove you wrong. Not half an hour.
    That's three times in a row you have made statements that doesn't stand up to scrutiny, that would embarrass the feck out of me.
    Maybe next time if you made statements that did stand up to scrutiny............
    For instance, if National has to lie to try and score political points just how great are they.............
    Surely if they were great they could stand up tall on their own merits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Really, it took a few minutes to prove you wrong. Not half an hour.
    That's three times in a row you have made statements that doesn't stand up to scrutiny, that would embarrass the feck out of me.
    Maybe next time if you made statements that did stand up to scrutiny............
    For instance, if National has to lie to try and score political points just how great are they.............
    Surely if they were great they could stand up tall on their own merits.
    Come on, learn how to have a bit of fun with it.
    I couldnt care less about the whole deal, but I do laugh when u get wound up.
    No offence intended, im just not that uptight anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    Come on, learn how to have a bit of fun with it.
    I couldnt care less about the whole deal, but I do laugh when u get wound up.
    No offence intended, im just not that uptight anymore.
    Bob, proving Torry's wrong is fun. Nothing you have said thus far as ever offended me or wound me up.
    I know a guy from Basque, if you ever want to see someone get would up about politics, ask one of them them what its like to be part of Spain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Bob, proving Torry's wrong is fun. Nothing you have said thus far as ever offended me or wound me up.
    I know a guy from Basque, if you ever want to see someone get would up about politics, ask one of them them what its like to be part of Spain.
    Tell him Real Madrids a better team than Barcelona.
    Then start running, fast !
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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    That kept you busy for half an hour, well done
    Let me know how much I owe you for rent inside your head.
    I bet it is getting very cramped in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frogfeaturesFZR View Post
    Works for me.

    Ps, Seymour for police minister
    Seymour is an atheist - he can't be a minister ..
    "So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    Seymour is an atheist - he can't be a minister ..
    Pretty sure hes a hologram also...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Pretty sure hes a hologram also...

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    Is that from the tv series red dwarf? The reference I mean I know its david Seymour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danger Mouse View Post
    Is that from the tv series red dwarf? The reference I mean I know its david Seymour.
    He's Arnold, Arnold, Arnold Rimmer.
    Without him life would be much grimmer.
    He's handsome, trim, and no-one slimmer.
    He will never need a zimmer.
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