Projects At Home During Lockdown

[russd7]

At basic eng. at Woodbourn if you left anything chuck key in anything and fired it up you went around the hanger a few times with a huge wooden chuck key.

its habit forming, if ya keep ya hand on the chuck key until it is taken out of the chuck then it never gets left in, if ya get in the habit of leaving it in while ya do something else then ya forget its there, not really difficult. these days if ya humiliate anyone even for doing something stupid then it is you that is wrong, coaching is the way apparently.
last time i observed the saw being used incorrectly the person was told that they would be banned from using the gear, I can't fire them but in my own best interests i can ban them from using the gear, and if they can't use the gear then they can't do the job they were employed for.

[HenryDorsetCase]

unfortunately it would be me in the shit if said person got hurt because i am the supervisor, The reason for all the rules is because ya can't fix stupid, this is a person who i have to keep reminding to wear a mask while using the sanders, we sand a lot of rimu and shell, both very nasty dust and yes we do have local extraction as well, this is a person who i have to remind not to have the blade set higher than necessary on the table saw, (we have already lost one thumb in my time there, no not mine), this is a middle aged person who has not long completed a pretrade at polytech as well as gone through in house training on how to use the gear safely and efficiently.

it is these people why we have to guard the shit out of machinery

Let me just share something. The ONLY reason H & S got any traction in this country is when the penalties were changed to make company directors personally liable for failings. That was in 2016 but the stuff that got the headlines was the potential for five years imprisonment and $600k fines (yes SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS) - and $3M for the company. I know a few people in manufacturing, including my brother who runs a very successful business and they spent a lot of money sorting stuff out. That they all admitted was long overdue.

Having said that, the gap between that and actual enforcement seems to be somewhat lacking - I know someone whose father was killed in a truck yard here. No prosecution because it wasnt a dead sitter. Piss poor decision in my view.

This is the new reality, and all you grumpy old cunts crying in your beers can kiss my shiny arse.

[Gearup]

Yeah the fact that some cutting/polishing compounds are to be used in stages is lost along the way. Alcoa has a polishing kit that works the same way, a cut, then a finish compound.
When you try and do serious polishing with the finish compound it'll need loads of elbow grease

In fairness, after the soapy steelo, we use a lot of 0000 steel wool with soapy water, as this gives a near mirror finish.
Quick rub with Trucker's Pride Cut, then the Trucker's Pride Finish and stuff gleams.

Truckers and shiny stuff aye? Bit like some bikers

Some good info on adding kero to autosol and this, thanks.

[sidecar bob]

Let me just share something. The ONLY reason H & S got any traction in this country is when the penalties were changed to make company directors personally liable for failings. That was in 2016 but the stuff that got the headlines was the potential for five years imprisonment and $600k fines (yes SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS) - and $3M for the company. I know a few people in manufacturing, including my brother who runs a very successful business and they spent a lot of money sorting stuff out. That they all admitted was long overdue.

Having said that, the gap between that and actual enforcement seems to be somewhat lacking - I know someone whose father was killed in a truck yard here. No prosecution because it wasnt a dead sitter. Piss poor decision in my view.

This is the new reality, and all you grumpy old cunts crying in your beers can kiss my shiny arse.

600k or proceeds of crimes act?
This is the biggest load of horse shit I've ever read, it makes some of katman's posts seem quite tolerable.
If you know the whole story it's wrong at so many levels. Being driven by a very bitter bereft mother.
Ron did home detention & paid a 400k fine, now this.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...ase-staggering

[russd7]

Let me just share something. The ONLY reason H & S got any traction in this country is when the penalties were changed to make company directors personally liable for failings. That was in 2016 but the stuff that got the headlines was the potential for five years imprisonment and $600k fines (yes SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS) - and $3M for the company. I know a few people in manufacturing, including my brother who runs a very successful business and they spent a lot of money sorting stuff out. That they all admitted was long overdue.

Having said that, the gap between that and actual enforcement seems to be somewhat lacking - I know someone whose father was killed in a truck yard here. No prosecution because it wasnt a dead sitter. Piss poor decision in my view.

This is the new reality, and all you grumpy old cunts crying in your beers can kiss my shiny arse.

I have been working with H&S since in inception in 1992, starting from being a a youngish farm worker with the attitude of "fuck off ya can't do that" to employing staff and paying $1000.00 for a Brick that i was told i needed, (don't think i ever read it) to starting to take it seriously, remember farmers were targeted by osh, (quite rightly so in some instances), so i have seen the benefit of it,
i am currently our Worksafe Coordinator,
when i started working where i am now i have taken them from having no H&S policy to passing a worksafe audit with flying colours.
what i have an issue with is staff that believe that they "know more" and Have the experience and training to Know that they can use a piece of machinery how they please. I think the level of enforcement at this level leaves a lot to be desired.
the incident where a colleague cut his thumb off was completely arrogance based, he was not even given a wet bus ticket, I was the only person working in the same area at the time and i was not even interviewed in the investigation.
I use all the machinery at my place of work and don't expect people to do any more than i do as far as safety goes, what pisses me off is when they use less safety than what i use, i have proven that it is no less efficient to do a job safely and masks can be used easily even with safety glasses (most common excuse, glasses keep fogging up) i wear prescription safety glasses and am useless without them.
most of the time, a lack of doing things safely is pure arrogance.
safety is about attitude
but you are correct, compliance was definitely improved with the increase in penalties.
the only crying this grumpy old cunt does in to his beer, actually this grumpy old cunt doesn't cry, to much of a man for that shit

[sidecar bob]

I had some dopey h&s consultant woman explain to me that I needed to have the lift chains on my roller doors tested.
I explained that they were hand operated & only for lifting the doors & I doubted that I could break them with my bare hands.
Her ensuing argument got her kicked out of the workshop & replaced by someone that actually had a clue.

[caspernz]

600k or proceeds of crimes act?
This is the biggest load of horse shit I've ever read, it makes some of katman's posts seem quite tolerable.
If you know the whole story it's wrong at so many levels. Being driven by a very bitter bereft mother.
Ron did home detention & paid a 400k fine, now this.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...ase-staggering

The whole story isn't in the media

[sidecar bob]

The whole story isn't in the media

Yeah, here it is.
Read it right to the bottom.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=11945168

[jellywrestler]

Having said that, the gap between that and actual enforcement seems to be somewhat lacking - I know someone whose father was killed in a truck yard here. No prosecution because it wasnt a dead sitter. Piss poor decision in my view.

they should get the Covid enforcement police onto it, then you can be sure after five warnings they'll get done on the sixth offence...

[jellywrestler]

I've got truckers pride, but its nowhere near as good as I was led to believe, now I discover theres two types.
I think I must have "finish" because it hard work.
I'm a huge fan of soapy steel pads. I used them on the MV & BMW mufflers with fantastic results, finishing with PMP.
And they can be got from the local dairy under level 4, I know this for a fact.

dont use metal ones myself, scotchbrite in variuos grades, the big wheels from commercial floor polishers are good and come in several grades, the university i worked for donated plenty for me

[jellywrestler]

At basic eng. at Woodbourn if you left anything chuck key in anything and fired it up you went around the hanger a few times with a huge wooden chuck key.

that would be classed as anxiety inducing torture and the offender would get a payout

[sidecar bob]

Anyway, back to projects at home.
The RS125 got its clothes taken off last night.
Today I removed the pipe it's an unpainted Arrow & was getting quite furry, I hit it with a rotary wire buff in the drill.
Stripped the carb & soaked the jets in a solution, cleaned the rest of it & put it together & back on.
Polished the frame & swingarm, took it to a designated safe area outside & scrubbed the engine with a toothbrush & brakleen from every angle.
Serviced the power valve & removed the battery & put it on charge for the night.

[HenryDorsetCase]

600k or proceeds of crimes act?
This is the biggest load of horse shit I've ever read, it makes some of katman's posts seem quite tolerable.
If you know the whole story it's wrong at so many levels. Being driven by a very bitter bereft mother.
Ron did home detention & paid a 400k fine, now this.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...ase-staggering

I had no idea they were using the POC process in this context. That is an interesting read. I will see if I can track down any commentary or the judgment itself (I got nothing but time these days).

The reason the filth go for POC is because the standard they have to prove is the civil standard - balance of probabilities, not the criminal standard of beyond reasonable doubt. Makes their job much easier, and their chance of success.

[sidecar bob]

I had no idea they were using the POC process in this context. That is an interesting read. I will see if I can track down any commentary or the judgment itself (I got nothing but time these days).

The reason the filth go for POC is because the standard they have to prove is the civil standard - balance of probabilities, not the criminal standard of beyond reasonable doubt. Makes their job much easier, and their chance of success.

What I'd like to know is what crime Ron committed, to have all these proceeds long before some young stoner took a Sickie from his real job, to help his mums boyfriend out at a job he had neither the skills or the authority to perform.

[Bonez]

that would be classed as anxiety inducing torture and the offender would get a payout

Yeah it's the soy boy age we live in. What what ever happened to personal responsibility?
You fuck up and you pay the consequences.