Are you 'essential' or not?

[pritch]

Having read what some other governments are doing, f'rinstance UK, Australia, and the USA which is basically doing nothing, I'm happy with what is being done here. We may quibble with the detail but at least they are trying something and they did it relatively quickly.

One thing I don't understand is why the US Stockmarket is rising. It's almost as if they haven't got a clue what's possibly just over the horizon.

[mashman]

Laughter - maybe.
Cognitive thought and persuasive argument - Suspiciously lacking.

You still cannot solve the problem of user choice and scarcity in your system. All of your 'we can just get more under an RBE' (doubly hilarious because of your critique of 'consumerism') fails, spectacularly. You either have a system that massively over-produces with huge wastage, or you end up with a system where there is no individual choice - everything gets allocated by the Government - and as you yourself have stated, such a system breeds corruption (just like every Communist state... Funny that).

Neither can you solve the problem of Human Nature being fundamentally incompatible with your system, in fact you fail so badly at this hurdle that you have to Pray the Human Nature away.

Who is the Simpleton? The person who has to deny reality in order to preserve their flawed ideology or the person who can debunk it with a simple sentence: "Price rises or falls until Supply equals Demand".

But by all means, continue shitting on the Chess Board and strutting around like you've won - it's just proof that you've the intellect of a Pigeon.

Mate, you can't handle logic, reason, common sense and clear cut evidence... so thinking that you have some claim over what constitutes cogent thought is fucking hilarious. Laughter again, check, and a chur bro.

I solved it. You didn't understand it. I even explained the parable (I honestly believe that I met bogan that say, and boy did he get pwnd) as to why you couldn't understand the solution, and continue to highlight why you are incapable of such thought. In fact, I leave you to explain why you are incapable of such thought, because you highlight it so well... much better than i ever could should I ever take the want to do such a thing.

I have solved the Economic Calculation Problem in such a way that it can handle mass unemployment without crashing the economy... ergo, you can have all the tech you want so long as it's useful, because creating the useless shit clearly means less useful shit to go around.

My poor deluded lard. This isn't about winning and losing. If you stop making it about such, you might actually learn something. If it takes intelligence to design such an economic model, then I Am one of the foremost minds on this planet given that I can, and have proven with/through many others, done as I have stated. YOU ARE WRONG. If you think that that means you've lost, then you really don't have a fucking scooby do about anything.

NOW, wherez my fucking Nobels at?

[mashman]

One thing I don't understand is why the US Stockmarket is rising. It's almost as if they haven't got a clue what's possibly just over the horizon.

... seems to be a recurring theme. It's a QE, ish, thing. It gets around inflation coz you're creating money against an asset instead of out of thin air. That that asset may actually be thin air or not even exist is irrelevant (it can be simply represented by a $1 trillion platinum coin, as Obama wanted) so long as there is confidence in it existing by those who are getting the money to invest in it... or at least until the gig is up and it all falls on its face.

Don't fret, it's perfectly normal business practice.

[Bonez]

NOW, wherez my fucking Nobels at?

They give those to folk who do absolutely nothing and cause greif in other countries these days. Emmy maybe?

I love when you ypou sudo interlectuals have a "discussion". Proves you are no different to us normal folk. Certainly better than a Mills and Boons novel.

[mashman]

They give those to folk who do absolutely nothing and cause greif in other countries these days. Emmy maybe?

I love when you ypou sudo interlectuals have a "discussion". Proves you are no different to us normal folk. Certainly better than a Mills and Boons novel.

Oh thank you, thank you thank you... oh, oh, I never thought this day would come (rapid hand waft over face to try to dry tears of joy), I'd like to thank, well you obviously, because I've already thank you, and, well, technically my mum is a part of that you so I don't need to directly thank her even though she had a pretty tough job raising my sister... oh and God, who I just simply wouldn't be here without... oh so many of you.

Nah fuck that shit. I've cracked the Economic Calculation Problem which Will bring about Peace given that none have to fight for resources anymore. I reckon that'd restore some honour to the names that deserve to be there. Economics and Peace. C'mon, hand them over. And when you write my name in the history books, make sure you spell it right: "Weedidit Toogethere".

[Katman]

But by all means, continue shitting on the Chess Board and strutting around like you've won - it's just proof that you've the intellect of a Pigeon.

Well it sure beats your strutting around like a turkey.

[Bonez]

Oh thank you, thank you thank you... .

You're most welcome. Thanks for the pos rep. Connie, my wife nearly laughed herself shitless....

[Viking01]

Having read what some other governments are doing, f'rinstance UK, Australia, and the USA which is basically doing nothing, I'm happy with what is being done here. We may quibble with the detail but at least they are trying something and they did it relatively quickly.

One thing I don't understand is why the US Stockmarket is rising. It's almost as if they haven't got a clue what's possibly just over the horizon.

Re the first point: You mention the US and Australia. It might be worth looking at future progress and success for countries having a federal / state structure (vs a single nation state), and how well aligned / consistent is their approach.

I watch the US with interest, given its current political polarisation and the likely variation in action taken across red / blue states.

[Edit]

And another area of geographic interest to me:

https://www.euronews.com/2020/03/26/...us-confinement

[pritch]

The Governor of Mississippi was doing nothing about the threat of Corona virus so some cities and towns introduced their own isolation rules. The Governor said words to the effect, we are not China, we will not become China, and promptly ordered everybody back to work.

Mississippi is ranked fiftieth of the USA states for life expectancy. Life expectancy there is about equal with Bangladesh. Well, it was. The gormless Governor might have changed that.

The rednecks down there might chant USA! USA! and talk about 'The greatest nation on earth," but make no mistake, Mississippi is shit hole country.

[Katman]

Mississippi is shit hole country.

Wow, what a reasoned opinion.

[Bonez]

Wow, what a reasoned opinion.

I thought it was a State in the Union. Well that is what the teacher told me at primary school........(Dots added for effect) It was a long time ago though so things might have changed since then. Maybe pitch went to a school of higher learning. You know the ones with their heads in the clouds. Less oxygen up there I believe. Which would explain a lot.

Missisipi COVID-16 official page https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static/14,0,420.html

[Swoop]

You and ellipsis aren't related by any chance?

Nope. Unless he is fabulously rich and wanting to adopt a new relative?

- Every Marxist/Socialist/Communist/RBEist ever.

For historical context - that's normally right before the Mass Executions and Mass Starvations start happening...

Socialism: A nice concept/idea, but never works in practice due to everyone wanting a better life.
Also not wanting an authoritarian political system.

One thing I don't understand is why the US Stockmarket is rising.

There's money to be made on a downward trending market... for the clever investors.

[Drew]

How did this thread turn into a pissing contest?

[Bonez]

How did this thread turn into a pissing contest?

You are new here obviously....

[sidecar bob]

How did this thread turn into a pissing contest?

Fuck knows, I'm stuck at home with my hot wife that can cook, deciding which of twelve bikes i want to mess about with first when I'm not screwing
Do I win?