Are you 'essential' or not?

[F5 Dave]

Geez that's risky isn't it? How many businesses would absorb that and not be able to pay it back?

[JimO]

Handy yes ... but if you have other means to cook (or survive) it's declared not essential.

LOL says the man with a kitchen

[Katman]

LOL says the man with a kitchen

It amuses me that there are people out there who are so cocksure of themselves (there's another one for the Berk to get excited over) that they think they know the answer to every question that arises during this unprecedented event.

None of us know the definitive answer - and that seems to include those setting the rules.

[FJRider]

LOL says the man with a kitchen

Call an electrician and ask ...

[JimO]

Call an electrician and ask ...

electrician, joiner, plumber all involved, im not worried i can live without a kitchen

[FJRider]

electrician, joiner, plumber all involved, im not worried i can live without a kitchen

Clearly not essential then ...

[jasonu]

It's paid to the employer to pass on over a potential period of 12 weeks.

But I recall the powers that are saying folks (not employers) will get a lump sum of $7800 to take care of (I think) 13 weeks pay. it was in the news a week or so ago.

[SaferRides]

I do wonder how many employees will see the full amount. What happens if the business is wound up in a few weeks?

I'm not sure about the tax implications for my business either, so will apply in April. .

[FJRider]

But I recall the powers that are saying folks (not employers) will get a lump sum of $7800 to take care of (I think) 13 weeks pay. it was in the news a week or so ago.

https://www2.deloitte.com/nz/en/page...tlements.html#

[Coldrider]

Essential, by trade for health and safety of people in homes and at work, and by full time contractor in the food chain supply. Only permitted to purchase items from open retailers/ wholesalers that are relevant to an essential job.
So five days a week plus callouts in the weekend, its great I dont like visitors anyway at the peak of the season.

[TheDemonLord]

I'd written out a long reply dissecting your waffle, but the Cookie Monster ate it. So instead I've decided to go with the abridged (for me anyway) version

Mate, you can't handle logic, reason, common sense and clear cut evidence... so thinking that you have some claim over what constitutes cogent thought is fucking hilarious. Laughter again, check, and a chur bro.

I solved it. You didn't understand it. I even explained the parable (I honestly believe that I met bogan that say, and boy did he get pwnd) as to why you couldn't understand the solution, and continue to highlight why you are incapable of such thought. In fact, I leave you to explain why you are incapable of such thought, because you highlight it so well... much better than i ever could should I ever take the want to do such a thing.

So, for reference - This is in relation to the problem of Personal Choice in an RBE and the fact (despite Mashies assertions he's solved the riddle) that it is impossible without a means to measure relative value (be that Money, Barter, whatever) - Fun begins here - Mashie's 'Solution' is that without the impediment of Money, we can always just get more stuff (no we can't, all resources are Finite and therefore scarce from an Economics PoV) or that people will just have to queue up with a hope they will get what they want (which ironically proves my point that under an RBE there would be severely limited personal choice compared to the current system)

But anyway, in the above quote Mashie claims that he has solved the problem of personal choice being non-existent under an RBE. So, let's take him at his word for now...

I have solved the Economic Calculation Problem in such a way that it can handle mass unemployment without crashing the economy... ergo, you can have all the tech you want so long as it's useful, because creating the useless shit clearly means less useful shit to go around.

"So long as it's Useful" - which means all the "Useless" goods and services (as defined by the Gossnab or Mashman or Our Glorious leader) that are currently produced (and therefore have both people that choose to produce them and people that choose to buy them) won't exist.

Mashman, in a spectacular display of senility disproves his earlier statement and in fact proves the very critique I leveled at the system nearly 4 years ago, in the post where he asserts he solved it.

My poor deluded lard. This isn't about winning and losing. If you stop making it about such, you might actually learn something. If it takes intelligence to design such an economic model, then I Am one of the foremost minds on this planet given that I can, and have proven with/through many others, done as I have stated. YOU ARE WRONG. If you think that that means you've lost, then you really don't have a fucking scooby do about anything.

NOW, wherez my fucking Nobels at?

See the part where you contradicted yourself and proved that under an RBE personal choice would be removed. Just like Communism, Socialism and every other failure of a Marxist-derived, centrally planned economy.

[pete376403]

https://www2.deloitte.com/nz/en/page...tlements.html#

My employer will be paying me the $585 as described in the Delloite link. It will still be subject to income tax so I'm expecting it to be more like $450.Also Kiwisaver employee contribution will be deducted unless I request a payments holiday. Fortunately the house and credit cards are paid off, no HPs etc but shit its going to be a struggle for some.

[Drew]

Turns out that heat pumps are essential, if they're the only form of heating in a house. So we can go and investigate broken ones, and replace them should we need to.

[mashman]

See the part where you contradicted yourself and proved that under an RBE personal choice would be removed.

Nope. Do you see that you must have misunderstood something?

[F5 Dave]

No it appears that he doesnt like you because you speak like a deluded hypocrite. Then you Interdesperse it with as if you think you are so clever. But nobody thinks that.

Really .

Nobody thinks you are clever. We all think you are quite simple and deluded.

Haha chuckle, oh no, it's so funny you all are sheeple.

Bollocks. Buy a motorcycle and come back when you are enlightened.