Page 8 of 9 FirstFirst ... 6789 LastLast
Results 106 to 120 of 134

Thread: A fictional pandemic scenario?

  1. #106
    Join Date
    3rd February 2004 - 08:11
    Bike
    2021 Street Triple RS, 2008 KLR650
    Location
    Wallaceville, Upper hutt
    Posts
    5,196
    Blog Entries
    5
    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    demand to see their papers etc.

    All my life, living in the Anglosphere, we used to ridicule that we would ever become a society where we had to show our papers.

    And for me - it raises many questions about the nature of Western Democracy: If you are too cowardly to tell your government to piss off when they infringe on your liberties, then why do you think you should have a right to vote?
    You have always been "required to show your papers", depending on the circumstances - never been stopped by a cop and had to show your licence? Never been to another country and had to show your passport?
    it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
    those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
    (PostalDave on ADVrider)

  2. #107
    Join Date
    7th January 2014 - 14:45
    Bike
    Not a Hayabusa anymore
    Location
    Not Gulf Harbour Either
    Posts
    1,491
    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    You have always been "required to show your papers", depending on the circumstances - never been stopped by a cop and had to show your licence? Never been to another country and had to show your passport?
    Which is a Strawman.

    Crossing a country border is not the same as going into a Cafe.

    However - you mentioned stopped by a Cop, now sure - they can check your license. Outside of driving, however, unless Arrested or suspected of Alcohol crimes

    The NZ Police actually have no powers to compel you to identify yourself

    With a few exceptions, the police have no power to make you give them information when you’re not under arrest – for example, if they just see you walking in the street late at night. They don’t even have the power to get you to tell them your name and address and other personal details.
    Ironically, the example you provided gives me an opportunity to reinforce the point I am making: In a properly functioning Libertarian society - You do not have to show your Papers.

    The NZ Police cannot compel you to prove who you are - unless you are driving, suspected of an Alcohol offense or are under Arrest (which would need an articuable suspicion of an offence being committed)

    TL;DR - yeah, the Police (with a few exceptions) cannot force you to show your papers, proving once again how much of a breach of our rights and liberties Covid was and for no reason.
    Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress

  3. #108
    Join Date
    8th January 2005 - 15:05
    Bike
    Triumph Speed Triple
    Location
    New Plymouth
    Posts
    10,201
    Blog Entries
    1
    This thread is an exercise in mini hysteria. It's too minute to be mass hysteria. Considering that literally millions of COVID jabs have been given in this country, do any of you actually know anybody who had an adverse reaction? And I do mean somebody you know, not your sister's workmate's cousin.
    There is a grey blur, and a green blur. I try to stay on the grey one. - Joey Dunlop

  4. #109
    Join Date
    5th December 2009 - 12:32
    Bike
    It was on the good
    Location
    ship Venus, by Chri
    Posts
    3,273
    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    This thread is an exercise in mini hysteria. It's too minute to be mass hysteria. Considering that literally millions of COVID jabs have been given in this country, do any of you actually know anybody who had an adverse reaction? And I do mean somebody you know, not your sister's workmate's cousin.
    Not to downplay things but my arm hurt for a bit.

  5. #110
    Join Date
    15th February 2005 - 15:34
    Bike
    Katanasaurus Rex
    Location
    The Gates of Delirium
    Posts
    9,011
    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    This thread is an exercise in mini hysteria. It's too minute to be mass hysteria. Considering that literally millions of COVID jabs have been given in this country, do any of you actually know anybody who had an adverse reaction? And I do mean somebody you know, not your sister's workmate's cousin.
    I know plenty.

    I've also been bewildered by the number of my customers over the last few years who now have tales of dealing with cancer and recovering from heart attacks (either themselves or immediate family).

    And if you want mass hysteria you have to look no further than the global reaction to a virus that right from the outset had a 99.7% survival rate.

    (And that was even with the fudged numbers, whereby even a gunshot fatality would be recorded as a Covid death if the person tested positive).

  6. #111
    Join Date
    7th January 2014 - 14:45
    Bike
    Not a Hayabusa anymore
    Location
    Not Gulf Harbour Either
    Posts
    1,491
    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    This thread is an exercise in mini hysteria. It's too minute to be mass hysteria. Considering that literally millions of COVID jabs have been given in this country, do any of you actually know anybody who had an adverse reaction? And I do mean somebody you know, not your sister's workmate's cousin.
    Was it Mini Hysteria when our civil liberties were trampled on...

    Was it Mini Hysteria when we had the rise of the Maskholes...

    I could go on.
    Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress

  7. #112
    Join Date
    15th February 2005 - 15:34
    Bike
    Katanasaurus Rex
    Location
    The Gates of Delirium
    Posts
    9,011
    And if you're actually interested in learning more about the known adverse reactions to the Covid vaccines (which I suspect you're not) you could look at the data from Pfizers own safety reports.

    The same reports that the FDA wanted to keep secret for the next 75 years.

  8. #113
    Join Date
    15th February 2005 - 15:34
    Bike
    Katanasaurus Rex
    Location
    The Gates of Delirium
    Posts
    9,011
    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    This thread is an exercise in mini hysteria. It's too minute to be mass hysteria. Considering that literally millions of COVID jabs have been given in this country, do any of you actually know anybody who had an adverse reaction? And I do mean somebody you know, not your sister's workmate's cousin.
    And in case you're wondering, ACC has so far paid out $11.5 million in Covid 19 vaccine injury claims, as of Nov 2024.

  9. #114
    Join Date
    8th January 2005 - 15:05
    Bike
    Triumph Speed Triple
    Location
    New Plymouth
    Posts
    10,201
    Blog Entries
    1
    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    Not to downplay things but my arm hurt for a bit.
    Ah yes. I had a sore shoulder but I have arthritis in the shoulders so I couldn't tell if it was the jab or just the normal arthritis.
    There is a grey blur, and a green blur. I try to stay on the grey one. - Joey Dunlop

  10. #115
    Join Date
    4th November 2003 - 13:00
    Bike
    BSA A10
    Location
    Rangiora
    Posts
    12,780
    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    This thread is an exercise in mini hysteria. It's too minute to be mass hysteria. Considering that literally millions of COVID jabs have been given in this country, do any of you actually know anybody who had an adverse reaction? And I do mean somebody you know, not your sister's workmate's cousin.
    Yes I do, heart issues for months, treated poorly as an "anti vaxxer" by hospital staff despite having had two shots, cardiac specialist confirmed it, ACC refused cover, she's only just back to normally in the last few months

    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    I know plenty.

    I've also been bewildered by the number of my customers over the last few years who now have tales of dealing with cancer and recovering from heart attacks (either themselves or immediate family).

    And if you want mass hysteria you have to look no further than the global reaction to a virus that right from the outset had a 99.7% survival rate.

    (And that was even with the fudged numbers, whereby even a gunshot fatality would be recorded as a Covid death if the person tested positive).
    I've found people who were anti always seem to know far more people adversely affected than people who weren't, possibly different circles they hang out with or know

    The people who I know who didn't get vaxxed suffered no worse than those I know that did, under 60 and if reasonable shape you didn't have much to worry about

    Cancer rates have been rising a lot for over 20 years but I've yet to see any evidence of a substantial rise in cancer rates over the norm, NZ cancer rates have been fairly stable for ten years until 2022 and I can't find any info after that but I don't know how often they update those figures, omigod they must be suppressing them so we can't find out the truth

    My understanding was the single gunshot death in NZ was reclassified as died with covid rather than of covid once the investigation was complete, fucking stupid either way
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    Even BP would shy away from cleaning up a sidecar oil spill.
    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Zevon
    Send Lawyers, guns and money, the shit has hit the fan

  11. #116
    Join Date
    15th February 2005 - 15:34
    Bike
    Katanasaurus Rex
    Location
    The Gates of Delirium
    Posts
    9,011
    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    Yes I do, heart issues for months, treated poorly as an "anti vaxxer" by hospital staff despite having had two shots, cardiac specialist confirmed it, ACC refused cover, she's only just back to normally in the last few months
    And you have to wonder, if they've paid out $11.5 million so far in Covid vaccine injury claims, how many legitimate claims have they refused.

  12. #117
    Join Date
    15th October 2009 - 17:33
    Bike
    2023 Honda NC750X
    Location
    Auckland
    Posts
    975
    Blog Entries
    4
    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    And you have to wonder, if they've paid out $11.5 million so far in Covid vaccine injury claims, how many legitimate claims have they refused.
    I think you've answered your own question – 'they' wouldn't see any claims they've refused as legitimate.
    Moe: Well, I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I...I can't compete with that stuff.
    - The Simpsons

  13. #118
    Join Date
    15th February 2005 - 15:34
    Bike
    Katanasaurus Rex
    Location
    The Gates of Delirium
    Posts
    9,011
    Quote Originally Posted by nerrrd View Post
    I think you've answered your own question – 'they' wouldn't see any claims they've refused as legitimate.
    And the fact that 'they' don't see it as a legitimate claim does not necessarily mean that's the case - as attested to in Kickaha's post.

    I have no doubt whatsoever that ACC would have received a clear directive from the 'single source of truth' to treat every injury claim with extreme skepticism and prejudice.

  14. #119
    Join Date
    15th February 2005 - 15:34
    Bike
    Katanasaurus Rex
    Location
    The Gates of Delirium
    Posts
    9,011
    So has anyone come up with a valid reason why Biden would see fit to issue Anthony Fauci a preemptive pardon?

    A pardon from what?

  15. #120
    Join Date
    3rd February 2004 - 08:11
    Bike
    2021 Street Triple RS, 2008 KLR650
    Location
    Wallaceville, Upper hutt
    Posts
    5,196
    Blog Entries
    5
    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    So has anyone come up with a valid reason why Biden would see fit to issue Anthony Fauci a preemptive pardon?

    A pardon from what?
    Protection from trump / MAGA insanity
    it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
    those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
    (PostalDave on ADVrider)

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •