The journey that COVID-19 will take us on

[husaberg]

Stalin or the Muslims or the feminista?

[TheDemonLord]

Stalin or the Muslims or the feminista?

Well...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxist_feminism

With the emergence of intersectionality[19] as a widely popular theory of current feminism, Marxist feminists remain critical of its reliance on bourgeois identity politics.[20] Intersectionality operates in Marxist feminism as a lens to view the interaction of different aspects of identity as a result of structured, systematic oppression.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality

What exactly is the difference between two of those?

[husaberg]

so it's with the shapeshifting aliens as well?.......

[TheDemonLord]

so it with the shapeshifting aliens as well.......

I mean, you tried to mock me for conflating Feminism with Marxism - and when I point out, using Wikipedia (not exactly a far-right source) that yes, the current most prominent strain of Feminism (Intersectionality) has deep Marxist roots, you're trying to play that off as a Conspiracy Theory?

When the Academics themselves cite Marx and Marxist theory - where is the Conspiracy?

Or is it just a little to inconvenient that I might be right all along...

[TheDemonLord]

So the tin foil keep in your thoughts or does it keep out the mind control rays from the 5g and the lizard men.

That depends - Is Intersectional Feminism and Critical Race Theory derived from Marxism, via Antonio Gramsci?

And here's the pro-hint The Authors of those ideas explicitly state it is.

Or are you just going to deny reality? I mean it's kinda telling that you accuse me of Conspiracy thought, when you are the one that is refusing to accept what is plainly stated by the people you are defending.

One might conjecture that your accusation is merely projection....

[sugilite:Me]

Wow, after reading all your posts on marxism in the USA makes it look like it must be a fast growing movement huh. Pretty much highlights how the current system has become so corrupt it is pushing many towards a revolution. How fortunate the marxists have the 2nd amendment, so they can rise up in armed force against the tyranny of Government - yes?

[F5 Dave]

What's the fascination with a country overseas?. Do you want to move there? Or do you just absorb its fringe bullshit?

Site here is Kiwi. . . Biker. Are you either?

[TheDemonLord]

What's the fascination with a country overseas?. Do you want to move there? Or do you just absorb its fringe bullshit?

Site here is Kiwi. . . Biker. Are you either?

What starts in America (well, Germany and France if you go back far enough, like all bad ideas...) Gets imported to here. 10 years ago, when this stuff was first being bandied about - The Conservative types then said 'it's just silly nonsense in the Universities and on Tumblr - it will stay there' - it didn't. HR Departments of Big Corporations looooove pushing this crap. Think of all the Woke Adverts we've seen. Think of all the Film and TV Franchises that have been radically altered (and destroyed) upon the altar of Wokeness. It's not Fringe Bullshit, it's a Cancer.

Stalinda and the Watermelon party have also championed the same old claims. Consider this - why did we have BLM protested in Auckland and Wellington? What did NZ Cops have to do with George Floyd, yet they protested anyway.

Jacinda has discussed the idea of removing Statues, instead of telling the Marxists to Fuck off.

So Yeah, the Fascination then is peeking into the future to see what might happen.

[TheDemonLord]

Wow, after reading all your posts on marxism in the USA makes it look like it must be a fast growing movement huh.

I would say more like 'Festering' - and specifically it's festering at the Middle Management layer. Here's the thing though - Do you dispute the claim I'm making? If so, what is your standard of proof to demonstrate that certain Ideologies have Marxist roots? What is your standard I have to meet to show it's wormed it's way into The business world, the Entertainment world, Public discourse etc?

There's a point when you'll either go in reverse like Husa or you'll see the clear evidence for yourself that I was right all along (even if you may still think some of the more extrapolated conclusions are a bridge too far).

Pretty much highlights how the current system has become so corrupt it is pushing many towards a revolution.

Which system though? I don't put this down as a failure of the Governmental System per se, but more a failure of the University System and more specifically - a Failure to assert Liberal Principles when they are undermined by Marxist Academics.

Well, that and funding Marxist scholars since the 1960s....

(McCarthy's only crime was not going far enough....)

How fortunate the marxists have the 2nd amendment, so they can rise up in armed force against the tyranny of Government - yes?

Absolutely.

And I'll place my Money on the Kyles of Kenosha vs the Marxists any day of the week. And I'm not even joking on that - you've got your Academically trained, wannabe revolutionaries vs the Group that literally Loves Guns, Loves God, Loves 'Murica, Goes to the Range everyday and firmly believes in their individual rights.

Who would you side with? The Redneck with his AR strapped to his back, who might say the wrong thing about the wrong person occassionally - or the University educated Revolutionary who thinks it's right to burn down buildings because of Structural oppression?

[pete376403]

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Who would you side with? The Redneck with his AR strapped to his back, who might say the wrong thing about the wrong person occassionally - or the University educated Revolutionary who thinks it's right to burn down buildings because of Structural oppression?[/QUOTE]

To paraphrase = do you side with the person who thinks it is ok to destroy property or do you side with the person who thinks it is ok to kill?

[TheDemonLord]

To paraphrase = do you side with the person who thinks it is ok to destroy property or do you side with the person who thinks it is ok to kill?

Did the Communists, in any of their revolutions, stop at merely destroying Property?

And do you think it's okay to Kill someone, who is trying to destroy you, your way of life and your entire existence?

That's the option you've got.

And based on History - I know which I'd prefer and I've got a good idea as to which side will win.

[R650R]

And here is your weekly reminder that all the Fascists were Former Communists...

Funny that...

😂😂😂😂😂

Isn’t it funny that a short time ago in history National Socialists (nazi) were at war with communist/Marxist/socialist Russia while being aided by the Fascist dictatorship of Mussolini’s Italy in the fight against the predominantly Christian capitalist western nations.... yet people think now there’s only two options....

Jim marrs had the definition right, fascism being the merger of state and corporate powers which is just what hitler has with the mostly corporate owned slave labour camps...,

Even more funny when you look st standard of living in all current or gormer commie countries....

*insert random YouTube vid here of any Russian/east European student whose emigrated to a western nation*

[pritch]

That depends - Is Intersectional Feminism and Critical Race Theory derived from Marxism, via Antonio Gramsci?

And here's the pro-hint The Authors of those ideas explicitly state it is.

Or are you just going to deny reality? I mean it's kinda telling that you accuse me of Conspiracy thought, when you are the one that is refusing to accept what is plainly stated by the people you are defending.

One might conjecture that your accusation is merely projection....

I can't verify it, but I can't believe anything you read about CRT has any basis in reality. The Republicans are using it to keep the base (and you) riled up. The CRT they talk about has no connection to the actual academic subject taught as part of a law degree. I hope nobody here is dim enough to suggest that race is not a major factor in the US justice system. CRT isn't taught in schools and it certainly isn't taught in kindergarten as stated by Senator Johnson.

[TheDemonLord]

I can't verify it,

That's an absolute Cop-out. I've posted multiple quotes, University citations, Scholarly works that back this up, Set your standard of Proof, I'll be happy to meet it.

but I can't believe anything you read about CRT has any basis in reality.

So, when I post post direct quotes by prominent 'Scholars' in CRT - can you believe that? Or will you again look the other way and decline to comment.

The Republicans are using it to keep the base (and you) riled up. The CRT they talk about has no connection to the actual academic subject taught as part of a law degree.

Considering that you either refuse to read the actual works by the CRT authors, you're in no position to say what it does and does not have a connection with.

I hope nobody here is dim enough to suggest that race is not a major factor in the US justice system.

Depends on how you define 'Major Factor' - One of the Claims made in CRT is that the purpose of the Legal system is to perpetuate the dominance of Whiteness against Blackness.

Now, I can grant you the US has had racial issues, but I want to focus on the Legal aspect, because I think it's where the Fundamental claim is most absurd. The US Legal system is derived from English Common Law. Which has it's origins in around 1215, In England.

How many Black People or 'People of Colour' do you think existed in England in 1215? Enough for the foundational Legal system to be derived in order to keep them down?

If memory serves, the first Documented Black Person in England wasn't until Henry the 8th, some 250 years later.

Now, we can say that due historical Prejudices, there have been very clear instances where Race has played a factor, no one denies that - but that was down (in most cases) due to either prejudiced Cops, Judges or Communities - the claim that the whole system is racist is absurd, on multiple fronts.

CRT isn't taught in schools and it certainly isn't taught in kindergarten as stated by Senator Johnson.

If it's not taught in schools, then there's no problem with banning it in Schools...

But as I said in the other thread - the problem isn't that the Academic subject of CRT is being taught in Kindergarten, it's that the assumptions of CRT are being taught.

Or perhaps to put it another way to help you understand: A Christian would be correct to say that Theology and Bible Studies weren't being taught in Kindergarten, but if you heard a Kindergarten teacher say 'There is only one God, and on the 7th day of Creation, he rested' - We would be absolute correct to say that the beliefs of Christianity are being taught, even if the Academic itself subject wasn't, and we'd be justified to call for it to be banned.

There's plenty of examples of School curriculums that cite CRT as a framework or reference specific works by the likes of Kimberle Crenshaw, Ibram X Kendi etc.

[R650R]

Depends on how you define 'Major Factor' - One of the Claims made in CRT is that the purpose of the Legal system is to perpetuate the dominance of Whiteness against Blackness.

Now, I can grant you the US has had racial issues, but I want to focus on the Legal aspect, because I think it's where the Fundamental claim is most absurd. The US Legal system is derived from English Common Law. Which has it's origins in around 1215, In England.

How many Black People or 'People of Colour' do you think existed in England in 1215? Enough for the foundational Legal system to be derived in order to keep them down?

If memory serves, the first Documented Black Person in England wasn't until Henry the 8th, some 250 years later.

Now, we can say that due historical Prejudices, there have been very clear instances where Race has played a factor, no one denies that - but that was down (in most cases) due to either prejudiced Cops, Judges or Communities - the claim that the whole system is racist is absurd, on multiple fronts.
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Absolute GOLD... pity media can’t join the dots like that....

Back to thread topic add on radio says have a covid plan if you test positive while on holiday... I don’t see what choices any plan would have when dept of health would be effectively putting you under house arrest where ever you are....anyone else with you would be a close contact and not allowed to go anywhere either...