The journey that COVID-19 will take us on

[husaberg]

I’m sure any skilled expatriates who found themselves having to come back will leave again as soon as they can, none of the reasons that made leaving NZ the attractive option in the first place will have changed.

Negotiating decent wages comparable with overseas is also a skill i would have thought.
But i jest the numbers moving overseas is apparently pretty static.
Much lower under current gov than under previous National govt as well

[pritch]

I really can't help feeling young Mr Yoo is not much of a loss. He wants to go to Australia for "more freedom." Freedom isn't free, as the Yanks like to say. Yesterday Australia reported nearly 70,000 new COVID cases. NZ reported 35. That's a lot of extra freedom.

That item seems to disapprove of the situation wherein people are employed by overseas companies but work remotely from NZ. "While the body stays here, the brain goes." Of some economic significance though, the money stays here too.

[Ocean1]

Negotiating decent wages comparable with overseas is also a skill i would have thought.
But i jest the numbers moving overseas is apparently pretty static.
Much lower under current gov than under previous National govt as well

Lol, still at the "But Nashnal" shit, eh?

[husaberg]

Lol, still at the "But Nashnal" shit, eh?

its a stat posted by stats NZ. if it clearly show nationals was a bit shitter than you would like that not really my fault now is it.
it wasnt posted to show National was shit it just happened to show they were pretty shit.
Go back to the three Donkeys.

https://teara.govt.nz/en/video/2158/...-advertisement
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2014/02/2...nt-no-poverty/

[FJRider]

I really can't help feeling young Mr Yoo is not much of a loss. He wants to go to Australia for "more freedom." Freedom isn't free, as the Yanks like to say. Yesterday Australia reported nearly 70,000 new COVID cases. NZ reported 35. That's a lot of extra freedom.

The point too many miss ... freedom has a cost. Two world wars in the cause of freedom. Millions dead.

There would be few on here that didn't have a relative that either fought and/or died in the cause of freedom.

Would Mr Yoo (or his family) be enjoying the freedom if he dies of covid .. ???

That item seems to disapprove of the situation wherein people are employed by overseas companies but work remotely from NZ. "While the body stays here, the brain goes." Of some economic significance though, the money stays here too.

It does pay (excuse the pun) to check the currency of the country you'll be paid in first though. Paid in US $$$ into an NZ account ...

[pritch]

On the TV news tonight I see the Brits have utilised the military to assist with staff shortages at testing and vaccine centres. I can't get used to seeing troops wearing camouflage uniforms with hi viz vests. It's like they can't make their fucking minds up. We do it here too I note.

Meanwhile in the USA, the latest "unofficial" cure for COVID is Viagra. That could give them a hard time.

[R650R]

The point too many miss ... freedom has a cost. Two world wars in the cause of freedom. Millions dead.

There would be few on here that didn't have a relative that either fought and/or died in the cause of freedom.

Would Mr Yoo (or his family) be enjoying the freedom if he dies of covid .. ???



It does pay (excuse the pun) to check the currency of the country you'll be paid in first though. Paid in US $$$ into an NZ account ...

Yes indeed and they must be turning in their graves over our modern leaders....
Btw our two world wars were more about international treaties than freedoms but that’s another thread of its own...

Yes he will be enjoying his freedom, maybe briefer than anticipated

[R650R]

On the TV news tonight I see the Brits have utilised the military to assist with staff shortages at testing and vaccine centres. I can't get used to seeing troops wearing camouflage uniforms with hi viz vests. It's like they can't make their fucking minds up. We do it here too I note.

Meanwhile in the USA, the latest "unofficial" cure for COVID is Viagra. That could give them a hard time.

Sounds like a bit of OCD issues there... the practicalities of it all and reasonings are plainly obvious... I was watching some over dimensional equipment being moved on camo military low loaders.... flashing lights and flouro width placards/flags . Pretty normal if no enemy invasion happening

[Condyn]

I finally caught the VID about 2.5 weeks ago. Day 1-3 after symptoms showed up I felt like I got run over by a truck. Muscles sore, headache, and a slight sore throat. Temp only hit 99.4f on the worst day. 98.6f is my normal. From day 4-10 I improved each day. I never got pneumonia in my either lung like some experience so I am thankful for that. I drank very large amounts of water and hot tea each day. I can taste 50% of normal and smell only 20% of normal still. It is coming back slowly. No other symptoms persist for me.

I am not vaccinated and never will be as long as I am in control of that. I am average weight, eat healthy, as well as consume proper amounts of water. I have two very good friends that are fully vaccinated and boosted, one is on a ventilator, the other has Covid pneumonia in both lungs and has been monitoring his blood oxygen (I believe that is what he said) very close So he knows if he has to go to the hospital. Both people are overweight and have poor diets. Many non vaccinated people are suffering too. Many are overweight, do not exercise, and have poor diets.

Our country has not handled this as good as some since the start, so I can see where we look bad. I see the general opinion on this page and the shaming of people who stand out with different thoughts. In my opinion, having experienced it, I think that it is nothing to be concerned about unless you do not take care of yourself ahead of time. And I mean diet, exercise, mental health, etc. ELDERLY and immune compromised people may be the exception. Those groups also suffer from influenza and other illnesses more than a healthy person. If you want to get vaccinated, go for it, I will not judge you. Despite what I see on the news everyday, I have seen first hand, people with the vaccinations suffer as well. I have seen both sides of the vaccination status go both ways. This is not an attempt to push any agenda on anyone. Just wanted to tell you first hand what I experienced.

[pritch]

Sounds like a bit of OCD issues there...

Hardly. Some people think it looks silly driving with headlights on while wearing sunglasses. Again, it looks like they can't make their mind up.

You can do it, I wouldn't.

[Ocean1]

its a stat posted by stats NZ. if it clearly show nationals was a bit shitter than you would like that not really my fault now is it.
it wasm\nt posted to show Nationalwas shit it just happened to show they were pretty shit.
Go back to the three Donkeys.

https://teara.govt.nz/en/video/2158/...-advertisement
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2014/02/2...nt-no-poverty/

Right, right. So your belief is that labour's success rate in achieving their stated objectives as per their election manifesto is superior, eh?

Don't bother with yet another round of "But nashnul", nobody's interested.

[R650R]

I finally caught the VID about 2.5 weeks ago. Day 1-3 after symptoms showed up I felt like I got run over by a truck. Muscles sore, headache, and a slight sore throat. Temp only hit 99.4f on the worst day. 98.6f is my normal. From day 4-10 I improved each day. I never got pneumonia in my either lung like some experience so I am thankful for that. I drank very large amounts of water and hot tea each day. I can taste 50% of normal and smell only 20% of normal still. It is coming back slowly. No other symptoms persist for me.

I am not vaccinated and never will be as long as I am in control of that. I am average weight, eat healthy, as well as consume proper amounts of water. I have two very good friends that are fully vaccinated and boosted, one is on a ventilator, the other has Covid pneumonia in both lungs and has been monitoring his blood oxygen (I believe that is what he said) very close So he knows if he has to go to the hospital. Both people are overweight and have poor diets. Many non vaccinated people are suffering too. Many are overweight, do not exercise, and have poor diets.

Our country has not handled this as good as some since the start, so I can see where we look bad. I see the general opinion on this page and the shaming of people who stand out with different thoughts. In my opinion, having experienced it, I think that it is nothing to be concerned about unless you do not take care of yourself ahead of time. And I mean diet, exercise, mental health, etc. ELDERLY and immune compromised people may be the exception. Those groups also suffer from influenza and other illnesses more than a healthy person. If you want to get vaccinated, go for it, I will not judge you. Despite what I see on the news everyday, I have seen first hand, people with the vaccinations suffer as well. I have seen both sides of the vaccination status go both ways. This is not an attempt to push any agenda on anyone. Just wanted to tell you first hand what I experienced.

Thanks for sharing your genuine experience. The first to do so on KB

[husaberg]

Right, right. So your belief is that labour's success rate in achieving their stated objectives as per their election manifesto is superior, eh?

Don't bother with yet another round of "But nashnul", nobody's interested.

Nice gish gallop
Do you actually have any hard evidence to back your assertions or is the the normal blow hard tripe you normally post?
What would be interesting is if your posts would stand up to any scrutiny of not being so hypercritical .
Ps you dont get to tell me what to do. you have no authority on this thread nor do i have any actual respect for your opinion based on what you post I don't say this just as i disagree with them. i just notice the total lack of any corroborating evidence for your opinions you do post when challenged.

[TheDemonLord]

Ps you dont get to tell me what to do.

Oh.
The.
Irony.

You've been very much on board with telling other people what to do, now suddenly you're a flag waving, card carrying Libertarian?

[F5 Dave]

I finally caught the VID about 2.5 weeks ago. Day 1-3 after symptoms showed up I felt like I got run over by a truck. Muscles sore, headache, and a slight sore throat. Temp only hit 99.4f on the worst day. 98.6f is my normal. From day 4-10 I improved each day. I never got pneumonia in my either lung like some experience so I am thankful for that. I drank very large amounts of water and hot tea each day. I can taste 50% of normal and smell only 20% of normal still. It is coming back slowly. No other symptoms persist for me.

I am not vaccinated and never will be as long as I am in control of that. I am average weight, eat healthy, as well as consume proper amounts of water. I have two very good friends that are fully vaccinated and boosted, one is on a ventilator, the other has Covid pneumonia in both lungs and has been monitoring his blood oxygen (I believe that is what he said) very close So he knows if he has to go to the hospital. Both people are overweight and have poor diets. Many non vaccinated people are suffering too. Many are overweight, do not exercise, and have poor diets.

Our country has not handled this as good as some since the start, so I can see where we look bad. I see the general opinion on this page and the shaming of people who stand out with different thoughts. In my opinion, having experienced it, I think that it is nothing to be concerned about unless you do not take care of yourself ahead of time. And I mean diet, exercise, mental health, etc. ELDERLY and immune compromised people may be the exception. Those groups also suffer from influenza and other illnesses more than a healthy person. If you want to get vaccinated, go for it, I will not judge you. Despite what I see on the news everyday, I have seen first hand, people with the vaccinations suffer as well. I have seen both sides of the vaccination status go both ways. This is not an attempt to push any agenda on anyone. Just wanted to tell you first hand what I experienced.

Nice story of correlation, and I'm glad that from your sample size of, was it three, people you are happy to disperse your findings that your healthy in your opinion lifestyle was the deciding factor and therefore vaccine is unnecessary.

That you were 20 times more likely to pass on the virus than a vaccinated person, well that's the next person's problem, and who cares about them huh?