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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    If this is true, can a vaccine even be a possibility?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...s-latest-news/

    It certainly doesn't look good. Was also just reading about US Doctors reporting a 7 fold increase in stroke cases from blood clots, linked to the virus, but happening to otherwise healthy 30s and 40s age groups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Trump likely done his last Q&A

    Twitter “What is the purpose of having White House News Conferences when the Lamestream Media asks nothing but hostile questions, & then refuses to report the truth or facts accurately,”

    Twitter “Was just informed that the Fake News from the Thursday White House Press Conference had me speaking & asking questions of Dr. Deborah Birx. Wrong, I was speaking to our Laboratory expert, not Deborah, about sunlight etc. & the CoronaVirus. The Lamestream Media is corrupt & sick!” he tweeted.

    “Deborah, have you ever heard of that? The heat and the light, relative to certain viruses, yes, but relative to this virus –” Trump asked her.
    “Not as a treatment,” Birx responded cautiously. “I mean, certainly fever is a good thing.”

    Trump then claims
    "I was asking a question sarcastically to reporters ... to see what would happen," the president said on Friday as he signed another coronavirus relief bill into law. He had faced a torrent of ridicule for his comments, which were directed at doctors on his coronavirus taskforce, not at reporters.

    Shortly after Vice President Mike Pence delivered his word salad,
    Trump walked directly out as reporters shouted from the gallery "is now the time for sarcasm?"​

    Lolz, even his mate Piers Morgan had a go at him publicly about it. Trump responded by unfollowing him on Twitter.

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    Boris's Other Baby

    https://archive.is/20200418182037/ht...ster-hq3b9tlgh

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    Now that Boris is back on deck, he has announced that all is well, that the UK is now past its peak and is sliding down the hill:

    https://www.france24.com/en/20200430...toll-past-peak

    Though some of his critics disagree:

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ant-outbluster

    Check back in a week's time and see how well placed his optimism was.

    [09.05.2020]
    Can't see any (appreciable) improvement in the interim.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

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    US Social Security

    I see that Trump has refused to sign off on any further social payouts unless a cut in payroll tax (funding social security) is agreed at the same time.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2020/05/0...security-cuts/

    This comes a week after Mitch McConnell stated that he was agreeable with states declaring bankruptcy, and in doing so, wiping out accrued entitlements for state pensions.

    Seems to be just another attempt to erode the existing US social welfare systems (based on past articles):

    https://truthout.org/articles/in-des...rly-americans/

    https://truthout.org/articles/our-co...curity-crisis/

    Not to mention the fact that the underlying investments - supposedly to fund such schemes - have already been pillaged, and that the accrued entitlements are currently represented in large by " government IOU's " - with actual payments to be funded by future tax take.

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    The Plandemic documentary is currently being posted onto YouTube as fast as it is being blocked. It contains some pretty damning claims relating to the vaccine research industry and the movers and shakers in it. Take a watch of it while this link exists, or search the movie title once it's blocked. (This video seems to be a continuing loop of the first 25 minutes or so).



    As the presenter says fear makes a very effective motivator but which fear is well founded?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naki Rat View Post
    Take a watch of it while this link exists, or search the movie title once it's blocked.
    And the greater the effort they put into removing it makes me even more convinced that it's something we should all be watching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naki Rat View Post
    The Plandemic documentary is currently being posted onto YouTube as fast as it is being blocked. It contains some pretty damning claims relating to the vaccine research industry and the movers and shakers in it. Take a watch of it while this link exists, or search the movie title once it's blocked. (This video seems to be a continuing loop of the first 25 minutes or so).



    As the presenter says fear makes a very effective motivator but which fear is well founded?
    I'm not commenting either way, but seems to have been a number of opinions on the points contained within the video e.g.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/488215-plande...ry-censorship/

    But on an area of interest to me (Scandinavia) - where there has been a difference in the approach adopted - with Sweden not adopting a lock-down approach (vs Norway, Denmark and Finland) , it was interesting to see the latest comment from Sweden's chief epidemiologist Anders Tegnell:

    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/c...urprise-2020-5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking01 View Post
    I'm not commenting either way, but seems to have been a number of opinions on the points contained within the video

    It's difficult to know the truth, you'd need an advanced degree and insider knowledge of the system. Her tale of being locked up without cause though is apparently bollocks and that's a bad start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking01 View Post
    I'm not commenting either way, but seems to have been a number of opinions on the points contained within the video e.g.
    On the subject of 'lacking supporting evidence', the video that is being studiously hidden from us is just the trailer for the full documentary.

    Perhaps the supporting evidence will be presented at a later date.

    Either way, she's called Anthony Fauci out in a way that he surely can't ignore.

    Maybe Judy might be found with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the back of the head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    It's difficult to know the truth, you'd need an advanced degree and insider knowledge of the system. Her tale of being locked up without cause though is apparently bollocks and that's a bad start.
    Kim Hill raised the veracity of Dr Mikovits's claims with a virologist on her show yesterday morning and apparently the claim of there being no vaccines for RNA viruses doesn't hold water. Veterinary vaccines exist for rabies among others.

    The blocking of alternative views by YouTube recently is concerning though. Dr Andrew Saul who promotes high dose IV vitamin C has had numerous posts taken down in relation to treatment research trials using this against COVID-19 in Chinese studies. There is also increasing evidence of vitamin D being effective in protecting against COVID-19 but that isn't grabbing much traction. Is it due to the fact that vitamins are cheap and can't readily be patented by big pharma??


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    Quote Originally Posted by Naki Rat View Post
    The blocking of alternative views by YouTube recently is concerning though.
    And I suspect there's a large proportion of people who are quite happy about that blocking.

    That's the real concern.

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    re the Plandemic "documentary"

    "At one point, Mikovits claims that she “taught” Ebola cells in a U.S. Army laboratory at Fort Detrick how to infect human cells in 1999, effectively saying that she weaponized the disease against humans.

    “Ebola couldn’t infect human cells until we took them in the laboratories and taught them,” Mikovits.

    If accurate, that would mean that Mikovits is partially responsible for 11,300 deaths from the 2014-2016 Ebola outbreak alone. But her claim doesn’t make any sense, because the first recorded cases of human Ebola infection were recorded 23 years earlier, in 1976. The Daily Beast was not able to verify that Mikovits worked at the laboratory.

    And she makes the bizarre argument that wearing a mask somehow makes a person more susceptible to the virus.

    “Wearing the mask literally activates your own virus,” Mikovits said. “You’re getting sick from your own reactivated coronavirus expressions.”

    “Plandemic” throws out so many false claims in its 22 minutes that it’s difficult for a lay viewer to keep track of what’s true, according to Gorski.

    “You just shoot so much misinformation out there that it blasts you back,” Gorski said.

    Willis has a history of his own that suggests he isn’t rigorously committed to scientific accuracy in his films."
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    …..according to Gorski.
    Nobody would expect 'Gorski' to write any different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    “You just shoot so much misinformation out there that it blasts you back,” Gorski said.
    Or as Steve Bannon put it, "Flood the zone with shit." The problem then is that there are too many people who are unable to sort the shit from the rest. People like the serially ill informed anti-vaxxers.

    These days the zone is indeed flooded and it is getting difficult to distinguish the truth from nonsense even for people who were not previously easily deluded.

    The social media giants are currently causing concern by what they censor and what they don't. This clip has reportedly been censored by some but is still on YouTube. The Lincoln project paid $5000 to have the ad shown during Tucker Carlson's show on Fox. In one area only, the District of Columbia. They had just the one viewer in mind, and hours later in the wee small hours Trump was still firing off angry tweets. Job done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
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    These days the zone is indeed flooded and it is getting difficult to distinguish the truth from nonsense even for people who were not previously easily deluded.

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    When the conspiracy video is convincing enough for Kim Hill to ask about its veracity you know they've done a good job of baffling the masses.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/audio/player?audio_id=2018745802 Question asked at 7:23 The answer eventually is influenza, measles, polio and rabies are all RNA viruses with vaccines.

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