The journey that COVID-19 will take us on

[FJRider]

... meanwhile we're in the red setting for no apparent reason crushing businesses ability to make money.

I'm still making money.

Those with freedoms missing ... can usually be blamed for their own situation.

The onus of duty of care ... is on the individual. Both to themselves ... AND others.

If they look ... those with claims of loss of freedoms ... lack the duty of care to others.

As such ... I don't care about them. It's their problem ... not mine.

[FJRider]

'Have they received any from you for abuse of a member'

That's pretty damn accusatory - given the context and the use of Bold. And the answer is an unequivocal 'No.'

And the second part where I said I've only ever reported one Member (Katman), not for abuse, but for Rep Bombing. And as per that Quoted, you immediately said:

"Just like you do with me you mean".

The top bit is a simple question ... inference it is something else is entirely your choice of thought.

The second bit I thought I explained a few posts back.

What you may (or may not) believe is entirely up to you.

If you truly believe I have unjustly accused you of anything untoward ... feel free to report it.

If the Moderation team agree with you that YOU have a valid complaint ... they may well take action.

Such is life.

About those two posts and TWO different accusations ... of yours I have been asking about ??? Any simple explanation for those ... ???

A PM reply if you prefer.

Any further claims from you ... of the issue you are claiming of me ... will be considered (seen as) harassment.

[TheDemonLord]

The top bit is a simple question ... inference it is something else is entirely your choice of thought.

The second bit I thought I explained a few posts back.

What you may (or may not) believe is entirely up to you.

If you truly believe I have unjustly accused you of anything untoward ... feel free to report it.

Not my style, I prefer things out in the open.

I'll take the above as confirmation you didn't mean to say I did either of those things - which is sufficient for me.

About those two posts and TWO different accusations ... of yours I have been asking about ??? Any simple explanation for those ... ???

A PM reply if you prefer.

Any further claims from you ... of the issue you are claiming of me ... will be considered (seen as) harassment.

Since they specifically referred to what I thought you were accusing me of, and as above - you've all but said that you weren't (and I'm happy to take that on good faith), I'll take those back, since you've clarified.

Is that satisfactory?

[FJRider]

Not my style, I prefer things out in the open.

I'll take the above as confirmation you didn't mean to say I did either of those things - which is sufficient for me.

And fair enough. THANK YOU.

Since they specifically referred to what I thought you were accusing me of, and as above - you've all but said that you weren't (and I'm happy to take that on good faith), I'll take those back, since you've clarified.

Is that satisfactory?

INDEED.

The main reason I inquired ... was as to the cause of a two week "Time-out" awarded to me a year (or so) ago [During the FIRST level 4 lockdown] ... The one armed moderator assured me that ... although no records exist of that ... or what/who was responsible for my "Time-out" ... he did mention Spank Me did a bit of "Moderation" at that time.

As such ... if you choose to consider the matter now closed ... So shall I.

Caution ... I shall STILL continue to point out the errors (I believe) in what you have posted.

Such is life in the forums of Kiwibiker.

PS: The ancient Romans used Geese on the Palatine, one of Rome's seven hills. Legend has it that, during a siege by the Gauls in 390 B.C., the Palatine was saved by honking geese that warned the defenders of an attack. So they aren't completely useless.

Good eating too. But the older one's need a bit of chewing. Garlic helps the taste. Still legal to shoot in season.

[Kendog]

I did. I bought their science over the science you chose as your authority, because when I compared the 2 (one has to know both sides in order to have a qualified judgement, or one is simply being a parrot), only 1 sides' science could/can actually back the claims that any side is saying. The vaccine has become a jab despite the testing claiming that it would give 90+% protection for life after 2 doses, nope 3, nope 4, and maybe for 6 months, well, best go every 4 months, nah, make it 3........... When reality doesn't match testing, mistakes have been made, or lies have been sold. The theory behind mRNa technology is actually quite amazing and in theory again, should have worked a charm. It didn't. Why not? And why are we still pushing like little children to force someone to do something that little evidence backs, outwith the evidence from the circus that clearly brought you a shit product, (2 or 3 companies, not entire countries and governments), indemnified by governments, with the field results under lock and key for 55 years (not sure if that decision has been granted yet)? And you go for flat earth. Of course you do, because you have no real evidence, just the evidence of those who got it wrong.

Have you ever talked to someone who believes the earth is flat?
They talk just like you, TDL and 650R in this thread.
They get so caught up in their science they seem unwilling to see the world for what it really is.

I’ve enjoyed reading and commenting up to now, but just like talking to a flat earther, I’m tired of the single mindedness the minority display. Especially towards the seriousness of this pandemic. They (and you, TDL, 650R) get so deep into their alternate version of reality it becomes seemingly impossible to see the truth.

I thought this threads lowest point would be the promoting of a person that said it would magically disappear, it’s all under control, inject yourself with disinfectant etc etc.
But to link the Covid response to the holocaust
I should of left this thread then.
I’m out now.

[mashman]

Have you ever talked to someone who believes the earth is flat?
They talk just like you, TDL and 650R in this thread.
They get so caught up in their science they seem unwilling to see the world for what it really is.

99.9% of you can't handle the fact that how we live is unsustainable. Your frames of reference for calling dibs on eality are FUBAR. Have I ever talked to someone who believes the earth is flat despite the overwhelming evidence produced every year that proves it is?

I’ve enjoyed reading and commenting up to now, but just like talking to a flat earther, I’m tired of the single mindedness the minority display. Especially towards the seriousness of this pandemic. They (and you, TDL, 650R) get so deep into their alternate version of reality it becomes seemingly impossible to see the truth.

If you were taking the pandemic seriously, you would have looked into the evidence and science being produced by both sets of professionals in order to make a judgement instead of letting 3 identical people (still makes me laugh, the capitalist libertarian, the outright cacpitalist, and the 'anti-capitalist'), stop you from doing your own due diligence ... nice one bruv, coz that did make me lol. "I didn't read it". "Why not". "Because those 3 followed that science.".

And you want me to believe that you have something more than just a solid grasp of reality. Based on what? Polly... Polly... Polly wants a cracker and not a jot of science to date.

On a more personal note: I take the pandemic very seriously, as do the anti-mandate protestors. That you fucking idiots can label those there anti-vaxxers shows just how how little logic, reason and common sense you have applied to viewing the actions of human beings during this pandemic. There are vaccinated people there too. This is a lesbian protest i.e. they are anti-mandaters. Can't make the very clear distinction between the two like the media? Then you're clearly a fucking parrot that's listening to the one single source of truth without looking at that evidence either... hence why so many can;t reconcile testing with reality and are scratching their heads as to why... ney, they are writing it off as a meh thing and then decrying anyone who doesn't agree with stabbing everyone. Go fuck yourself you sanctmonious twat, I mean, Polly.

[TheDemonLord]

And fair enough. THANK YOU.

INDEED.

The main reason I inquired ... was as to the cause of a two week "Time-out" awarded to me a year (or so) ago [During the FIRST level 4 lockdown] ... The one armed moderator assured me that ... although no records exist of that ... or what/who was responsible for my "Time-out" ... he did mention Spank Me did a bit of "Moderation" at that time.

As such ... if you choose to consider the matter now closed ... So shall I.

Done, and just for clarity - definitely wasn't me.

Caution ... I shall STILL continue to point out the errors (I believe) in what you have posted.

I'd expect nothing less, hell it would get suspiciously boring if everyone started agreeing with me.

[TheDemonLord]

Have you ever talked to someone who believes the earth is flat?
They talk just like you, TDL and 650R in this thread.
They get so caught up in their science they seem unwilling to see the world for what it really is.

They really don't.

Mashman made the observation, but I'll make it also:

Myself, R650 and Mashman have very little in common as far as ideology goes.

I'm a British Libertarian - I believe in natural rights and all the things that spawn from them (such as Capitalism)
Mashman is an RBE afficianado - you can ask him for his definition, mine is that it's Communism with a fresh coat of paint.
R650R - I'd put him more as just simply a Rebel, and nothing wrong with that.

I've very rarely made claims specifically on the Science itself. Most of my objections are on the POLICY and that it violates Natural Rights and has been a massive over-reaction.

Especially towards the seriousness of this pandemic. They (and you, TDL, 650R) get so deep into their alternate version of reality it becomes seemingly impossible to see the truth.

How do you define seriousness? By Total Deaths? Sure it's serious.
By the individual risk of Death? It's not that serious.

What time and Data has shown is that for those under 65 and without pre-existing conditions (those whose conditions aren't their fault have my sympathy, those that are self-inflicted do not) are highly unlikely to die. Great!

Further to that, the Vaccine mostly does what it claimed to do - to stop those who are at a higher risk of dying... from dying.

So let's make the Vaccine freely available (which we did), Those that choose to be vaccinated can do so, those that choose not to can take the risk and let's all get on with our lives without any coercion or mandates or removal of Rights.

Simple.

Then now that the new variant, by all reputable data, is mostly non-lethal (in the same realms as the seasonal Flu), even better! Drop the passports, drop the scanning app, kick the restrictions, Job done. But Stalinda couldn't let all that power go, so we are still in red.

Two heartening bits of news: The Protest at Parliament and that the number of times the tracing app has been used is dropping significantly. The claim was that it's just a fringe minority opposed to this, but the drastic drop in scanning shows that there's a silent Majority that's fed up with their rights being curtailed.

But to link the Covid response to the holocaust

I mean, there was nearly 50% of a specific political group were okay with putting the Unvaccinated in Concentration camps, I didn't make that up.

And you still haven't condemned that.... Funny...

[husaberg]

Have you ever talked to someone who believes the earth is flat?
They talk just like you, TDL and 650R in this thread.
They get so caught up in their science they seem unwilling to see the world for what it really is.

I’ve enjoyed reading and commenting up to now, but just like talking to a flat earther, I’m tired of the single mindedness the minority display. Especially towards the seriousness of this pandemic. They (and you, TDL, 650R) get so deep into their alternate version of reality it becomes seemingly impossible to see the truth.

I thought this threads lowest point would be the promoting of a person that said it would magically disappear, it’s all under control, inject yourself with disinfectant etc etc.
But to link the Covid response to the holocaust
I should of left this thread then.
I’m out now.

just add them to ignore it cuts down the clutter.
Every time have bothered to read a post of one of the worst I am quickly reminded why they were on ignore, they have different forms of reality they love to claim arguments that were never made and will not accept anything that counters their original view no matter how stupidly far fetched they have to delve down to find any support and often the fact they have no evidence to support their claims they somehow view as being the evidence that makes their claims true.
The only logical conclusion they project their own inadequacies on to others as some form of narcissistic support.

[TheDemonLord]

just add them to ignore it cuts down the clutter.
Every time have bothered to read a post of one of the worst I am quickly reminded why they were on ignore, they have different forms of reality they love to claim arguments that were never made and will not accept anything that counters their original view no matter how stupidly far fetched they have to delve down to find any support and often the fact they have no evidence to support their claims they somehow view as being the evidence that makes their claims true.
The only logical conclusion they project their own inadequacies on to others as some form of narcissistic support.

Awwww Hunny, are you taking the Divorce badly?

[R650R]

Awwww Hunny, are you taking the Divorce badly?

Ignore it would have nothing to contribute if it actually ignored us haha 🤣

[pete376403]

Ignore it would have nothing to contribute if it actually ignored us haha 🤣

"it ignore us"? Are you channeling Gollum?

[husaberg]

"it ignore us"? Are you channeling Gollum?

KB last troll using the same MO was similar

[husaberg]

Ignore it would have nothing to contribute if it actually ignored us haha ��

Did you get marge to write for you.

You could be right, some stats follow... just on a side note does anyone have accurate data on infection rate by political part allegiance?????

Anyway I looked up South Carolina as they have similar population to NZ....

784k cases.... 11k dead.... the covid fatals being a rate of 116 per 100,000 population

But what’s their other health stats????

A staggering 34% (of whole population) are OBESE!!!
13% diabetic
22% children live in poverty so assume the parents do too

Cancer deaths are normally 201 per 100,000
Cardio/heart 278 per 100,000
Workplace deaths 7 per 100,000
Guns 20 per 100,000
Homicides 11 per 100,000
640 cases chlamidia per 100,000 (not normally fatal but uncomfortable I would guess)

America cause some freedom before death would be nice... Your numbers say about 1/4 of the population have had it but less than 1% dead. Currently 50% of the people on this forum will get a cancer of some kind. The death rate for cancer is orders of magnitude higher than covid....
Yet we still selling refined sugar, alcohol, chemical laden “skincare” products and let workers do long hours/shift work which is proven to reduce lifespan....

The moment of truth is upon us now we have 500,000 people unvaccinated vs the unstoppable omicron train which spreads so fast it renders contact tracing redundant. We will soon see just how “accurate” the scientists modelling is....

[R650R]

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/expla...so-contentious