The journey that COVID-19 will take us on

[TheDemonLord]

Sort of - without the regs every food outlet operated on pretty much the same standards, ie none. You ate out and took your chances. I experienced this myself - got a drink (bottled water, sealed by the bottler) at a roadside stall in Thailand. Had violent shits for some time afterward. Stuck to bottled beer, opened in front of me, after that.

So, the Moral of the Story is to drink more beer?

[Kickaha]

But jabs work ... make sure you get yours so you can keep your job even though the jab is beyond proven to be do nothing in the real world.

The science says otherwise

And remember, it's ok to deny the science with wilful ignorance...

You'd know because it's exactly what you're doing

[mashman]

You'd know because it's exactly what you're doing

That would be the case if Pfizers documentation didn't state the same thing. They have backtracked on every claim they said they had evidence for. But sure, it's my fault.

[mulletman]

That would be the case if Pfizers documentation didn't state the same thing. They have backtracked on every claim they said they had evidence for. But sure, it's my fault.

Pfizer post marketing PDF , in particular of interest are the last 8 pages of adverse events of interest it is a list that doctors are suppose to refer to if a patient complains of a reaction to the vaccine if its on the list it needs to be reported back to Pfizer. This was held back by pfizer until a court order made them start to release their dodgy documents. Pfizer wanted to release their thousands of documents after 75years they've been given till the end of 2022.

https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads...experience.pdf

[husaberg]

That would be the case if Pfizers documentation didn't state the same thing. They have backtracked on every claim they said they had evidence for. But sure, it's my fault.

Are you aware why the flu vaccine gets updated every year and why vaccines lose effectiveness over time or why other vaccines for viruses are so hard to keep effective ?
or are you just willfully ignorant?

plus try us more about this covid cure you have repeatidly claimed exits.....

They're dying from complications associated with a virus that had a scientifically proven cure available in Aug 2020.

R650R claims a different cure, is he wrong and you are right or both wrong.

only problem is

One of the world's largest studies - the Recovery trial run by Oxford University - has involved 11,000 patients with coronavirus in hospitals across the UK and included testing hydroxychloroquine's effectiveness against the disease, along with other potential treatments.

It concluded that "there is no beneficial effect of hydroxychloroquine in patients hospitalised with Covid-19

A year after the treatment trial launched in five cities, Johnston can say hydroxychloroquine had no effect in treating people with COVID-19. The results of the remote randomized, placebo-controlled trial were published Feb. 27 in E Clinical Medicine.

The trial was seeking 630 participants, but trial enrollment was stopped in August at 231 participants due to very few people having progressive COVID-19. The primary clinical outcome of the study was progression of COVID-19 to pneumonia or hospitalization, and time to symptom resolution was a secondary outcome.

“There was no faster resolution of symptoms among people receiving hydroxychloroquine or hydroxychloroquine/azithromycin compared to placebo.” Johnston said.

The data are consistent with multiple other randomized trials that have shown that hydroxychloroquine has no benefit in the outpatient or inpatient setting for treatment of COVID-19.

]Early on in the pandemic, hydroxychloroquine was suggested as a possible prevention method or treatment for COVID-19, given evidence of in-vitro inhibition of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2),2 propelling this mainstay treatment of rheumatic diseases to prominence and controversy. However, multiple high-quality studies subsequently showed no benefit of hydroxychloroquine use as post-exposure prophylaxis3 or as a COVID-19 treatment

Dr. Peter McCullough, who was fired from the Baylor University Medical Center for spreading misinformation about COVID.

The largest nonprofit health system in Texas has secured a temporary restraining order against cardiologist Peter A. McCullough, MD, MPH, a COVID-19 vaccine skeptic who allegedly continued to claim an affiliation with Baylor

The largest nonprofit health system in Texas has secured a temporary restraining order against cardiologist Peter A. McCullough, MD, MPH, a COVID-19 vaccine skeptic who allegedly continued to claim an affiliation with Baylor

The general consensus in the medical community now is that there's not enough data to recommend ivermectin for use as a COVID-19 treatment, said Dr. Adrian Hernandez, professor of medicine and vice dean and executive director of Duke Clinical Research Institute, who is leading the largest ivermectin trial ever to see if three existing medications used for other conditions could help in the early treatment of COVID-19 patients outside of the hospital.

The nationwide study, which is randomized, has enrolled 3,000 patients so far and has plans to enroll 15,000 patients overall. To date, about 1,500 participants are being treated with ivermectin in the trial, with patients in all 50 states.

"Right now, there's not any suggestion of, does it do better than these other treatments that have proven evidence around it now?
Yet Dr Weinstein claimed that results from a recent study suggested that "ivermectin alone, if properly utilised, is capable of driving this pathogen to extinction
The study being discussed was reviewed by PolitiFact and found to be conducted by researchers with significant ties to the BIRD (British Ivermectin Recommendation Development) group, despite there being no acknowledgement of a conflict of interest.
"In a disease like COVID-19, where the large majority of people -- whether they receive a treatment or not -- will improve, just giving someone a drug and then improving doesn't mean that the drug made them improve,"

[mashman]

Pfizer post marketing PDF , in particular of interest are the last 8 pages of adverse events of interest it is a list that doctors are suppose to refer to if a patient complains of a reaction to the vaccine if its on the list it needs to be reported back to Pfizer. This was held back by pfizer until a court order made them start to release their dodgy documents. Pfizer wanted to release their thousands of documents after 75years they've been given till the end of 2022.

https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads...experience.pdf

Dr JC did a simple overview of one of the primary papers including the 8 pages you're talking about. I don't find his confusion very comforting.

[husaberg]

Dr JC did a simple overview of one of the primary papers including the 8 pages you're talking about. I don't find his confusion very comforting.

DR john Campbell has a PHD in teaching nursing..........but not in medicine.

My name is John Campbell and I am a retired Nurse Teacher and A and E nurse based in England. I also do some teaching in Asia and Africa when time permits. These videos are to help students to learn the background to all forms of health care. My PhD focused on the development of open learning resources for nurses nationally and internationally.

His disclamer
These media including videos, book, e book, articles, podcasts are not peer-reviewed. They should never replace individual clinical judgement from your own health care provider....

research has been proven to be faked and fraudulent before .....

Take, for instance, the former physician Andrew Wakefield’s fraudulent research – published in The Lancet, but subsequently retracted – which claimed a link between the MMR vaccine and autism. This was a clear and serious breach of research integrity, and although it caused a lot of harm, it also led to thousands of studies both refuting the fraudulent research,

[mulletman]

Ivermectin looks promising to reduce C19 symptoms, hospitalisations and death

https://www.cureus.com/articles/8216...score-matching

[Berries]

A mate tried that but he ended up feeling a little hoarse.

[husaberg]

Ivermectin looks promising to reduce C19 symptoms, hospitalisations and death

https://www.cureus.com/articles/8216...score-matching

Sounds compelling..... until you look a little deeper

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/03/sc...-for-covid-19/

The study is not a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled clinical trial, and it has multiple limitations. Health Feedback fact-checked stories published by the Gateway Pundit, Zero Hedge and the Blaze about an earlier draft of the study that was posted as a preprint in December.

“The study contained multiple methodological flaws that call the reliability of its conclusions into question. For example, there are indications that many people assigned to the ivermectin treatment group didn’t take the drug consistently, or stopped taking it after a while. It is therefore unclear whether any observed effect in this group can be reliably attributed to ivermectin treatment,” Health Feedback concluded.

In a Twitter thread on Dec. 15, epidemiologist Gideon Meyerowitz-Katz detailed some of the study’s problems, including conflicts of interest and lack of controls for important confounders, such as variables that could increase the risk of getting COVID-19.

The study was then peer-reviewed and published on Jan. 15 in Cureus, an open access online medical journal that allows researchers to publish studies for free and faster than the traditional peer-reviewed journals — 11 days in this case. But some of the problems remain, as PolitiFact.com explained.

The study analyzed data of a citywide COVID-19 prevention program using ivermectin in Itajaí, Brazil, from July to December 2020, when vaccines were not available. The whole population of the city was offered ivermectin, to be taken for two consecutive days every 15 days. Out of 159,561 residents, 113,845 used ivermectin and 45,716 did not. But according to a statement released by the city of Itajaí in January 2021, the numbers of voluntary users fell with time — 138,216 took the first dose; two weeks later 93,970 took the second and third doses, and only 8,312 took the fourth and fifth. “That is, there was no biweekly continuity of the use of ivermectin, as recommended,” the statement said.

A list of the authorized studies in Brazil using ivermectin as treatment for COVID-19 — provided to the Brazilian fact-checking coalition Comprova by the Brazilian National Research Ethics Commission — said the study “was registered with a sample of 9,956 participants.”

As we said, results of multiple large clinical trials on the safety and efficacy of the use of ivermectin to treat COVID-19 will be available in the coming months. They will provide a more definitive answer as to whether ivermectin is beneficial, or not, in treating COVID-19 patients. But for now, studies haven’t found the drug to be beneficial, and health officials have warned people not to self-medicate.

After more than 80 studies have evaluated the use of ivermectin, an antiparasitic medication, to treat or prevent COVID-19 in humans, the National Institutes of Health, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the World Health Organization have determined there is insufficient evidence to recommend using ivermectin to treat COVID-19. As we’ve reported, large clinical trials to determine its safety and effectiveness are ongoing, and results are expected in about a month.

But so far, randomized controlled trials have shown no evidence of a clinical benefit for ivermectin. And the medication has not been approved or authorized by the Food and Drug Administration to prevent or treat COVID-19

Yet, some people keep touting the effectiveness of the medication against COVID-19. In February, we fact-checked a misleading claim about ivermectin and the NIH, as well as false claims that a Japanese company had found ivermectin had worked in a phase 3 clinical trial, which was based on an inaccurate news article. On March 6, John Campbell, who has a doctorate in nursing education but is not a physician, posted a video about the drug that amassed nearly a million views. It incorrectly presented two weak studies as “powerful” and “overwhelming” evidence that the drug works to combat the disease.

“Why isn’t this in the newspapers?” Campbell asks his viewers after reviewing preliminary results of a study that was later canceled by its authors and the results of a flawed study. “This is why I think ivermectin is going to be one of the big scandals of this [pandemic]. It’s almost as if information has been deliberately suppressed throughout the pandemic, to be quite honest.”

On March 14, Campbell replaced the original video with a new version that eliminates the discussion of the first study.

[mulletman]

Sounds compelling..... until you look a little deeper

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/03/sc...-for-covid-19/

factcheck.org have only 1 credible trained scientist the rest are only journalists that cover news stories.

Who funds factcheck ? A group that holds 1.8 billion in Johnson and Johnson stock

https://cleverjourneys.com/2021/06/1...n-lobby-group/


Ivermectin study

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/

[husaberg]

factcheck.org have only 1 credible trained scientist the rest are only journalists that cover news stories.

Who funds factcheck ? A group that holds 1.8 billion in Johnson and Johnson stock

https://cleverjourneys.com/2021/06/1...n-lobby-group/

by funded you mean a guy thats a billionaire also gave them $63,000. out of all the other money they got from funding.
Ivermectin study

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/

Sounds like a conspiracy.......
https://www.factcheck.org/our-funding/


"your study" was previously discussed and debunked

i would rate Jessica McDonald . She trained as a scientist, receiving her Ph.D. in immunology from Yale University in 2013.
Over mashman or a nurse.

[FJRider]

..... you'd rather millions continue to die despite having read the paper that showed just how to save them. PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In New Zealand ... 498 thousand cases ... and 163 deaths (last updated 23 hours ago).


Where are the millions continuing to die .. ??



Looks like OUR Government got it right ... if only 163 died in the entire pandemic ..

[FJRider]

They clearly like me enough to talk to me about issues other than what sauce I like on my Sandwhich....

You're a customer ... they have to pander to the customer.


Then they come back. Times are tough a business is slow.


Did you leave them a tip ... ???

[FJRider]

Or.... Just throwing this out there....

Just throwing this out there ...

Nowhere in your original post stated that ANY of the staff had actually caught the covid virus. Stand down can occur if they are close contacts of someone that DOES have covid.

OR ... DID staff there actually have Covid ... ??

They got ten days of holiday pay... out of their Holiday allowance.

You get Holiday pay included in wages ... or a set number of days paid per year of Annual Leave. You don't get
ten days "Holiday pay out of "Your" Holiday allowance.

More likely ... their boss paid them out of the Governments funding for exactly that.

TL;DR it's the Governments fault, as I said all along.

Them's the rules though ... Nobody likes rules that work against them.


Just throwing this out there ...

If more people obeyed the road rules ... and I don't mean just the speed limit ... more peoples loved one's would still be alive today.

What you've described isn't Morals, it's vindictiveness.

If I (OR YOU) allow it to happen ... it's due to my (or your) MORALS.

However, if you look at how the Individual treats others, you can infer their sets of Morals - and things get interesting when you apply the standards they set for others to themselves.

If you see others being vindictive ... you can indeed infer as to what morals they might have.

It's called selective morality. And I bet you've also been guilty of exactly that ... on occasion ...

If the person is happy with how they are being treated, you know them to adhere to their set of Morals.

How I am treated (by anybody) ... does not infer what set morals I adhere to ... or personally hold.

They don't... but not because they've never offered... but because I refuse to accept it.

One of my Morals.

You have more than ONE ... who knew ...