The journey that COVID-19 will take us on

[R650R]

So, apparently now Vaccine Passports aren't needed under Red settings....

There are many many observations I could make....

Well this govt made a big deal about flatten the curve and care for the vulnerable...and rolled out statistics faster than a real estate agent trying to tell you now is time to sell.... so a lot of us have taken note of stats and the various things they mean....

One things for sure if we believe everything they have told us and that is Jacinda only cares about one side of the Bell Curve. We were told even one death is too many... but on the downward side of the bell curve your death or illness is acceptable apparently....

I bet ya when GCSB read all the emails and Facebook accounts of the 2000 at Wellington they prob found each of those people prob had 50-100 friends that were silent majority supporters....
100,000 to 200,000 people is not to be dismissed when you extrapolate out further a likely half million out there completely sick of the over bearing control mechanisms. A potential 10% of voters.....

[sugilite:Me]

My charitable interpretation has long since gone.

Why are we under a 'RED' settings if Vaccine passports aren't needed?

The obvious answer is that they were never needed.

The even more obvious answer is that this whole thing have been a charade.

It was only ever designed to be a stick to get the vaccination numbers up into the 90's, and from that perspective - it worked.

[Ocean1]

My charitable interpretation has long since gone.

Why are we under a 'RED' settings if Vaccine passports aren't needed?

The obvious answer is that they were never needed.

The even more obvious answer is that this whole thing have been a charade.

Why the need for charity?
The fact is constraints designed to minimise / prevent spread for delta worked, then. If you doubt that check health stats against other comparable countries.
The same constraints make less sense for a more infectious, less injurious variant already beyond possible containment and at peak spread.

I despise labour with a passion, and they have utterly failed by any metric with every single policy they've instituted for the very good reason that they're motivated by ideals that have no place in the real world. But for their covid response I'm giving them a C+.

[husaberg]

It was only ever designed to be a stick to get the vaccination numbers up into the 90's, and from that perspective - it worked.

Comaped to nz Hong kong The aged population has very low vaccination rates but similar overall rates compared to nz and it will be interesting to see the effect of what happens NZ vs them.

[TheDemonLord]

One observation I have is ... you didn't read it properly ...

From 11:59pm on 4 April 2022... there will be no requirement to use My Vaccine Pass. Until 4 April, where My Vaccine Passes are not used, the current restrictions remain — but after this time, the new capacity limits will apply to everyone. Vaccine mandates will also be removed other than for health and disability sector workers, prison staff, and border and MIQ workers.

You know, it's really funny - the one thing that I haven't read is the scientific study that says that Omicron will no longer be as infectious as it is currently, at midnight on the 5th of April.

If someone could send me a link to that peer reviewed paper....

[TheDemonLord]

It was only ever designed to be a stick to get the vaccination numbers up into the 90's, and from that perspective - it worked.

A totally illiberal, fascist stick.

And I mean that in every sense of the word.

[TheDemonLord]

Why the need for charity?
The fact is constraints designed to minimise / prevent spread for delta worked, then. If you doubt that check health stats against other comparable countries.
The same constraints make less sense for a more infectious, less injurious variant already beyond possible containment and at peak spread.

I despise labour with a passion, and they have utterly failed by any metric with every single policy they've instituted for the very good reason that they're motivated by ideals that have no place in the real world. But for their covid response I'm giving them a C+.

Did they work?

There have been many other places in the world that had the same constraints that didn't have the same effect.

I'm firmly in the camp that it was factors outside of Government control (Easily controlled border access, low population density, lack of a mass transit system, higher UV radiation in the atmosphere etc. etc.) that had the biggest impact on Covid not Spreading.

The only thing I would give them a C+ on would be the standing up temporary vaccination centres. Everything else is an F-

[pete376403]

It will be interesting to see which way the daily infection and death rates go.

[Berries]

when you extrapolate out further a likely half million out there completely sick of the over bearing control mechanisms. A potential 10% of voters.....

My six year old reckons your maths is shithouse.

[F5 Dave]

Truck driver maths.

Usually explained with quantities of the cheapest service station pie.

[FJRider]

If someone could send me a link to that peer reviewed paper....

I reviewed it ... might work.




Or not ...


But ... Fat useless pricks are still more at risk of dying.


Of anything.


Take care ...

[TheDemonLord]

It will be interesting to see which way the daily infection and death rates go.

Especially with the new reporting metrics, might actually be able to tell who died of Covid as opposed to with Covid...

[TheDemonLord]

My six year old reckons your maths is shithouse.

What does your six year old say about the decline in Covid Tracer app usage?

That paints a far starker picture than even R650 was insinuating.

[TheDemonLord]

I reviewed it ... might work.

Or not ...

But ... Fat useless pricks are still more at risk of dying.

Of anything.

Take care ...

Still waiting for the link

[pritch]

The only thing I would give them a C+ on would be the standing up temporary vaccination centres. Everything else is an F-

Not for the first time I considered something from this source to be completely divorced from reality. Just this morning though I read a likely explanation.

"I'm not anti vaccine, I'm just anti mandate." Actually means, "I'm just anti being told what to do by a woman."