The journey that COVID-19 will take us on

[FJRider]

You want me to believe that a law that specifically restricts people from spending money in certain places, was enacted to encourage Spending?!?

Well ... keeping the UN-vaccinated riff raff out of the way ... and off the street too.

Quite funny actually ...

All this Cope and Apologia - whereas I just have to point to the government's own data that shows I was always right.

I tell myself I'm right all the time. I have no need to point ... that's just rude.


Your point is ... ??

[TheDemonLord]

Well ... keeping the UN-vaccinated riff raff out of the way ... and off the street too.

Quite funny actually ...

It failed at that also...

I tell myself I'm right all the time. I have no need to point ... that's just rude.

Your point is ... ??

The Data does not backup the reasons given for the Ahren Pass.

[FJRider]

It failed at that also...

By MY observation (literally) ... I saw a number of people getting refused service ... because they could not produce a vaccine pass.


PRICELESS to watch ...

The Data does not backup the reasons given for the Ahren Pass.

A LOT of your posts have nothing to back them up ... but you still post it.

You have data ... which you interpret as it suits.


You need facts ... because data seldom are facts.


Good luck with that.

[husaberg]

[TheDemonLord]

By MY observation (literally) ... I saw a number of people getting refused service ... because they could not produce a vaccine pass.

PRICELESS to watch ...

And so how did that, according to you, "was simply to encourage spending"?

You've just disproved yourself there.

A LOT of your posts have nothing to back them up ... but you still post it.

You have data ... which you interpret as it suits.

You need facts ... because data seldom are facts.

Good luck with that.

Okay then - care to show me on the graph after the Pass was announced any meaningful change in the number of people vaccinated or the rate at which they were getting vaccinated?

This is just the same as when I called shenanigans on the '5 Covid deaths' only for the government less than a week later back track because it was so obviously Wrong.

[FJRider]

And so how did that, according to you, "was simply to encourage spending"?

You've just disproved yourself there.

I was spending ... THEY weren't. THEY however ... were TRYING TO spend. Total fail on their part ...

With about a 90% vaccination rate at that time ... it might be suggested that ... the majority WERE SPENDING ...

Okay then - care to show me on the graph after the Pass was announced any meaningful change in the number of people vaccinated or the rate at which they were getting vaccinated?

I don't need to. What may have been intended ... didn't happen. And certainly not with the speed that was hoped for.

I just watched more and more people being turned away ...

BUT ... there WERE plenty getting service.

Funny that .. !!

This is just the same as when I called shenanigans on the '5 Covid deaths' only for the government less than a week later back track because it was so obviously Wrong.

You get it wrong quite a bit.


NOW ... you claim it was only once.


Funny that ...

[TheDemonLord]

I was spending ... THEY weren't. THEY however ... were TRYING TO spend. Total fail on their part ...

With about a 90% vaccination rate at that time ... it might be suggested that ... that the majority WERE SPENDING ...

So, let's think about this, If they weren't allowed to spend under the rules, but would be allowed to spend without the rules - which scenario results in more consumer spending?

With rules?
Or without?

I'll await your answer.

I don't need to. What may have been intended ... didn't happen. And certainly not with the speed that was hoped for.

I just watched more and more people being turned away ...

BUT ... there WERE plenty getting service.

Funny that .. !!

You do if you want to keep up the Apologia and Cope.

You get it wrong quite a bit.

NOW ... you claim it was only once.

Funny that ...

You think I get it wrong, but time has had a curious habit of vindicating me of late - might want to think about that.

[FJRider]

So, let's think about this, If they weren't allowed to spend under the rules, but would be allowed to spend without the rules - which scenario results in more consumer spending?

With rules?
Or without?

I'll await your answer.

They were allowed to download their individual (cheap and nasty) Covid Passport.

Some could not do that ... guess why .. ??

You probably already know ... but I'll tell you anyway.

You do if you want to keep up the Apologia and Cope.

Nah ... I don't.


I'm STILL laughing too much anyway ...

You think I get it wrong, but time has had a curious habit of vindicating me of late - might want to think about that.

That's you of late ... WRONG.

And late to admit it.


Funny that.



And they couldn't download their Vaccination Passport because they (Mostly) weren't vaccinated. Or was against their principles.

Either way ...

[Kickaha]

That's you of late ... WRONG.

And late to admit it.


Funny that.

"Some people have such a fragile ego, such brittle self-esteem, such a weak "psychological constitution," that admitting they made a mistake or that they were wrong is fundamentally too threatening for their egos to tolerate. Accepting they were wrong, absorbing that reality, would be so psychologically shattering, their defense mechanisms do something remarkable to avoid doing so — they literally distort their perception of reality to make it (reality) less threatening. Their defense mechanisms protect their fragile ego by changing the very facts in their mind, so they are no longer wrong or culpable."

Guy Winch Ph.D

[R650R]

As I left the Supermarket today I saw a guy I knew approaching about to enter. I commented that it was difficult to tell who was who with everyone wearing masks.

He told me not to approach too close, "I've got it."


?

I have questions.

Sounds like he has faith in masks and social distancing....

Infected essential workers are still allowed to travel to work.... one would assume they are still allowed to purchase petrol and food to effect the continuation of that process... cause good citizens don’t stockpile so there’s no way he has any more than several days food in cupboard..

We all know a lot of people will be in the position to self manage their illness and not even report it to authorities and just stay home and tell their loved ones not to visit for awhile. Because unless your seriously ill there’s nothing they can do for you anyway.
And that would explain how cases rocketed to 20,000 a day and just stayed there when statistically case numbers should have carried on in an exponential manner, doubling every three days...

[TheDemonLord]

They were allowed to download their individual (cheap and nasty) Covid Passport.

Oh you could get it without undergoing a Medical procedure?

No?

Oof. So clearly wasn't to promote Spending, which was your original statement which was a LIE.

Same as every other lie about why the Vaccine pass was introduced.

- Didn't stop infections
- Didn't increase vaccination rates
- Didn't increase spending

The only thing it DID do, was to create a two-tier society. Were have I heard Socialists creating a 2-tier society before? Oh wait - Every. Fucking. Time.

[Kendog]

Oh you could get it without undergoing a Medical procedure?

No?

Oof. So clearly wasn't to promote Spending, which was your original statement which was a LIE.

Same as every other lie about why the Vaccine pass was introduced.

- Didn't stop infections
- Didn't increase vaccination rates
- Didn't increase spending

The only thing it DID do, was to create a two-tier society. Were have I heard Socialists creating a 2-tier society before? Oh wait - Every. Fucking. Time.

I feel sorry for you.
You’re obviously intelligent but you’re so far down the rabbit hole can’t see it.

[husaberg]

I feel sorry for you.
You’re obviously intelligent but you’re so far down the rabbit hole can’t see it.

Pretty sure as well a with Alice in wonderland he apperenlt mixing in the neverending story.

if only...



instead of....

[husaberg]

Sounds like he has faith in masks and social distancing....
Infected essential workers are still allowed to travel to work.... .

Covid infected workers are allowed to travel to work really are you sure?
As myself being an essential worker, I have different rules we are required to test daily if we are a close contact or have had covid. We have to test negative to be able to work.

And that would explain how cases rocketed to 20,000 a day and just stayed there when statistically case Numbers should have carried on in an exponential manner, doubling every three days...

By the way, do you think its even remotely possible as it patently obvious to everyone else,
Could the reason the curve has been flattened rather than doubling every three days might be the rules the actions the controls like makes and social distancing and restrictions and the other thing kiwis have done so well?.
I know you would catch fire if you admit you were wrong or misinformed but if you take off the obvious trolls you are still an obvious troll.
As no person aside from Katman or Yokel or mashman is that stupid. but you atre likly it seems both as you are a rather obvious troll.

[onearmedbandit]

We recently had covid in our household, my wife was the first to be infected. We went into isolation as per the guidelines. This began on a Sunday a couple weeks back. Our daughter then tested positive on the Thursday. Wondering if we need to start the 7 days isolation again I turned to the MOH website for guidance. No, only our daughter needed to restart the 7 day period. The rest of the household only needed to test positive on the 7th day of the original isolation period. Except my wife. It clearly states on the MOH website that the original infected person does not need to return a negative result, they just needed to be feeling ok with no obvious symptoms. I looked at the documentation that accompanied the RAT test and it also confirmed the person who was originally affected should not perform a test on the 7th day, as they would most likely return a positive result as they still would have Covid-19, but as long as they felt ok they could leave isolation.

So therefore you could be covid positive (as my wife was on the 7th day) and return to work.