The journey that COVID-19 will take us on

[pritch]

A snippet of what Bloomfield said about masks back then , dont think availability was the issue.

Evidently he did say that at one point. The story changed as they learned. Availability was absolutely an issue. Initially here were enough masks in the country for the few medical staff who normally use them, not for the whole population.

[husaberg]

A snippet of what Bloomfield said about masks back then , dont think availability was the issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlr_oBAx3S4

Maybe you might want to add context
https://www.health.govt.nz/news-medi...-update-27-may

[Ocean1]

Evidently he did say that at one point. The story changed as they learned. Availability was absolutely an issue. Initially here were enough masks in the country for the few medical staff who normally use them, not for the whole population.

I do know that a bulk supply of masks in storage for years and years was deployed to DHBs, only for it to be discovered that the straps were all degraded to the point they were useless. Given the propensity for politicians to selectively quote information I have no doubt that contributed to the confused messages around what was available at the time.

[R650R]

Fluff news does some statistical gymnastics here to play the racial inequality card. Have a read and let your head spin...

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/healt...t-kill-equally

Of interest at the start (and they upfront say stats are the official died of not with covid deaths) is that 89% of ALL virus deaths were aged over 70 which of course was kept a secret earlier on due to medical “privacy”....

[pritch]

Of interest at the start (and they upfront say stats are the official died of not with covid deaths) is that 89% of ALL virus deaths were aged over 70 which of course was kept a secret earlier on due to medical “privacy”....

That's not how I remember it. Every time the figures were published on the COVID website, for a long time that was daily, the details included the number of deaths, the area they lived, the age, and gender of the victims.

[jato]

An interesting read from an american doc... plenty of links to support his observations. https://drturner.substack.com/p/losi...n0l0atRLERwWyo

[TheDemonLord]

Now, I seem to recall someone (can't think who...) that pointed this out when the Government were rolling out the Vaccine Passports (the most immoral and illiberal thing done by a Western Government to it's own people in my lifetime) - and how the evidence that the Vaccine had any meaningful impact on Transmission was dubious at best.

Time is being awfully generous to me.

[mashman]

How Twitter Rigged the Covid Debate... and not just twitter, but the entire mainstream media and the bulk of social media doing it for your own good.

Duty of Care my hairy ass.

[SaferRides]

If anything, it was probably worse here. There was almost nothing in the local media that deviated from the "official" messaging.


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[pete376403]

Funny how all the covid-conspiracy stuff comes from people who are still alive...

[TheDemonLord]

Funny how all the covid-conspiracy stuff comes from people who are still alive...

I know right! Almost like it has a 99% survival rate!

[pete376403]

I know right! Almost like it has a 99% survival rate!

Which must be cold comfort to the families of the 6.68 million who have died of it. https://www.google.com/search?q=covi...hrome&ie=UTF-8

[F5 Dave]

Ahh, they were all going to die of old age at some stage anyway, so they dont count.

[TheDemonLord]

Which must be cold comfort to the families of the 6.68 million who have died of it. https://www.google.com/search?q=covi...hrome&ie=UTF-8

Just two points - looking at the Google stats, the Death count includes cases and probable cases.

Which, if we jog our memories back a wee while when a certain TDL pointed out how dishonest the NZ Stats reporting was, followed by ridicule, followed by the Government changing the reporting due to the very reasons I pointed out, have the potential to be greatly exaggerated - that is 'Died with Covid' being reported as 'Died from Covid'.

So the real number is likely to be much lower.

The second point is that from what we know of the disease - the vast majority of those deaths are:

- 60+
- Have significant co-morbidities

Whether that's Breathing issues, Weight issues, long term substance use issues or other issues.

Call me callous all you want, but I don't think the straw should shoulder the entire blame for breaking the Camel's back.

Nor, as it turns out, has it justified all the problems that the tyrannical covid responses (that were based on either lies or rushed research).

[TheDemonLord]

Ahh, they were all going to die of old age at some stage anyway, so they dont count.

Do you know of anyone who has lived forever?

No?

Then perhaps it's not entirely silly to suggest that we shouldn't ruin our entire way of life in the pursuit of immortality.