The journey that COVID-19 will take us on

[Katman]

Yeah so those 90% of farmers who product is exported should just go bankrupt then, as Steve from taupo doesn't understand GDP and trade deficitsor economics of a small populated island in te south pacific. Or indeed Farming.
How about instead of trolling you contribute your vast farming knowledge

Yeah, inconvenient truths have never sat well with you, have they?

[husaberg]

Yeah, inconvenient truths have never sat well with you , have they?

Its not an inconvenient truth its a fact 90% of farm products are exported in NZ, you just dont understand why that is, or why its important.
But seeing as you pretty much exclusively sell imported goods, to a hobby market and service imported products, i can see why you could not understand basic market fundamentals.
Nor would you be able to fathom why NZ is so amendable to growing cereals small seeds and pasture based agriculture yet, so shit at tropical fruit like bananas an pineapples and coconuts
Maybe you think that selling burgers to each other or trolling the internet with conspiracy theories will pay for these products.
Actually stuff that doesn't sit well is you claims that there are numerous cost effective alternatives to 1080 or your claims that rodeo 100-180kg calves get sent to the works after the rodeos. which were both fabrications of your imagination along with your other misinformation troll you do on KB.

But troll away steveo, that's all you are good for.

[FJRider]

You seem fixated on the idea that New Zealand has to feed the world.

It doesn't - it really only needs to feed New Zealand.

True. But the downside is that they get more money from the stuff they export to feed the world. For New Zealanders that want to get the quality stuff being exported ... they need to pay more. Those selling it don't want to be paid less.

So the NZ population gets what's left.

Isn't capitalism great ...

[Katman]

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[sidecar bob]

You seem fixated on the idea that New Zealand has to feed the world.

It doesn't - it really only needs to feed New Zealand.

Well if that's not the most ignorant & stupid thing ever posted in the history of the internet, then it must be a close second.

[Katman]

Well if that's not the most ignorant & stupid thing ever posted in the history of the internet, then it must be a close second.

Okay, I'll bite....

How so?

[sidecar bob]

Okay, I'll bite....

How so?

Well I guess using your logic, businesses could simply buy & sell things amongst their staff, thus removing the pesky annoyance of customers, while also removing the income generated from folk outside the business.
You should try that & see how it goes for you.
You're around 200 years too late for a NZ that works like that.

[Katman]

Well I guess using your logic, businesses could simply buy & sell things amongst their staff, thus removing the pesky annoyance of customers, while also removing the income generated from folk outside the business.
You should try that & see how it goes for you.

I suppose it depends on the importance you place on making ever increasing sums of money.

[sidecar bob]

I suppose it depends on the importance you place on making ever increasing sums of money.

Or the importance you place on servicing your debt, or paying your Bills. Or simply making enough money to put food on the table.
I personally put a very low importance on making ever increasing sums of money, so you're preaching to the converted there.
I've been nearly three years earning less than 25% of my income potential, should I decide to work to capacity.

[Katman]

Or the importance you place on servicing your debt, or paying your Bills. Or simply making enough money to put food on the table.

I've not questioned the need to make enough money to put food on the table.

I would suggest though that the food doesn't have to stretch to 8 courses each night.

(Are you still upset over the fact that I don't want to be your friend?)

[sidecar bob]

I've not questioned the need to make enough money to put food on the table.

I would suggest though that the food doesn't have to stretch to 8 courses each night.

(Are you still upset over the fact that I don't want to be your friend?)

No, I'm simply flabbergasted how quickly you put the keyboard into overdrive without switching the brain on.
Do you have any idea what this country's current national debt is, or the mechanisms implemented to repay it, or at least keep up on the interest payments?
Seems not.
Stop digging, you come across as a very slow moving target.

[caspernz]

Someone needs to call you out on your uneducated bullshit

Only reason why I choose to chime in occasionally. After all, when someone fills the bowl with crap, we gotta stop by to flush it

[Viking01]

See that NZ Treasury has published some papers on some of the background financial modelling they have performed for Covid, and the main scenarios that Government has been considering. Two links below.

The first link is a quick introduction and summary; the second contains content relating to the scenarios considered .

The financial commentary is within the second link. Note the Table of Contents on the right hand side as you scroll down (you can then jump to various sections as takes your interest).

Note also:

1. That there are metrics for measuring poverty and unemployment (in addition to just economic measures such as GDP) included in the analysis;
2. Government recognised that while an additional $20 million spend would not materially increase GDP over a five year period, it would have a significant (positive) impact upon reducing unemployment - which seems to be the direction (and scenario) that Government has adopted.

Some of the data is more "useful" when extracted and presented in graphical form. Related data tables are present on the Treasury website (I didn't say that they were easy to find).

https://treasury.govt.nz/publication...os-weekly-data

https://treasury.govt.nz/publication...html#section-1

[Stylo]

Couple of tips if you've lost your job or, it looks like it may happen.

Do it anyway regardless. Get your class 2 license . Means you can drive a truck and deliver things while you're thinking about what to do next. Worked for me. Just saying. Do it.

We have no idea where this is going.

Tip number two, be positive. I'm doing my best too. :-)

[James Deuce]

The little fuckers stick shit bigger and further than the COVID-19 test up their noses every day. Just test them, FFS.

https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/23-...-and-covid-19/