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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Good way to destroy your business... wonder if dumb fucks realise 90% of their store supplies prob came ex Auckland on truck or train and been touched by lots of minimum wage Auckland workers who prob live in latest hot zones lol
    A slice of salami is not going to cough in your face though is it?

    I see Aucklanders are getting a lot of support in the comments section of Stuff - Jafas can go and get fucked says the south island.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    A slice of salami is not going to cough in your face though is it?

    I see Aucklanders are getting a lot of support in the comments section of Stuff - Jafas can go and get fucked says the south island.
    I went a major nationwide takeaway outlet on Friday. It was jam packed and people were unafraid to rebel against the restrictions/hysteria.
    People sat and ate at “closed “ tables, people were hungry so there was no social distancing.
    One patron wore a mask but he was of the age that he likely had another health condition or cancer survivor etc...
    Two people in a 15min period scanned the QR thingy, no one signed the concentration camp booking form.
    The teenage girl taking an order to someone seated outside accidentally coughed near the order and close to an elderly patron and no one batted an eyelid at at.
    No ones afraid of the virus anymore.... Yeah sure it be bad to catch it but people want to live their lives free and not in fear ....
    The govt has worn people out with its Clockwork Orange fear therapy and “Ludovico’d” is into not being afraid. In a nation with major substance abuse problems you’d think the govt would know to not overdose us with fear porn but just like a crack dealer they done gone fried their customer base!
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    I went a major nationwide takeaway outlet on Friday ...
    And if a case breaks out in such cases ... there is nationwide condemnation on faceblurb.

    Until then .... NOTHING.

    As obviously ... (apparently) there is (was ??) no issue ...



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    Labours Covid strategy is a victim of it's own success - not enough people died for it to be taken seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    concentration camp booking form.
    Concentration camp form ? what a fuckwit to even compare it

    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Yeah sure it be bad to catch it but people want to live their lives free and not in fear
    I don't know a single person living in fear of it, I do know multiple people taking sensible precautions, they aren't the same thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    Concentration camp form ? what a fuckwit to even compare it
    Some just see it as it as an "Infringement" of their freedoms ... and the anti-covid measures are just seen herd control of the general populace.

    The self centered ones (who breed at an incredible rate) always roll out the "Small business's are hurting) line. Really I think to mask their own fears or selfishness.

    Those businesses that can't or wont change their business policy and practices will hurt. Innovative examples of change in methods of doing business is actually common. The downside is ... it requires more work and organizational skills than some have. And just quite can't comprehend "Doing it their way" will likely kill their business.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    I don't know a single person living in fear of it, I do know multiple people taking sensible precautions, they aren't the same thing
    Anxiety issues are a growing issue in "Modern" society. And I'm certain you WILL know someone living in fear of it. The amount of fear involved may vary. And sensible precautions are the precursor to more stringent precautions they may be taking elsewhere. Precautions you might not see or be aware of. Even that you see those precautions being taken ... means they do see it as a possible threat to their health (a commonsense attitude). Threats, risks and fears all amount to the same thing ... a threat to their self. Some get anxiety issues when the driver of the vehicle they are in is following too closely to the vehicle in front. How seriously anxiety affects their thinking may vary from person to person. But it is there.

    The ingrained laziness of many is the serious issue. That prevents more widespread personal precautionary measures being taken as standard practice in their lifestyles. The old "I can't be fucked doing that" comment is common. Just as when motorcycling ... if you're not looking for issues that might kill you ... you might not see the one that kills you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
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    Two people in a 15min period scanned the QR thingy, no one signed the concentration camp booking form.
    That wouldn't necessarily give the whole picture. Yesterday I was out and about more than usual. I visited some places more than once, if I'd already scanned a place previously that day I didn't scan it again.

    A thought: why are you having so much trouble understanding what are basic common sense procedures?

    Here is some truly astounding stupidity. A group of students are hosting a party, all have recently tested positive for Covid. They have to be quarantined at home, so they invite their mates around for a party. They just don't seem to get the idea that staying at home is not the whole answer.
    It's not shown in this clip but I think the cop ends up booking the lot of them.*

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M-6IwwFFhg



    * He booked six of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    Labours Covid strategy is a victim of it's own success - not enough people died for it to be taken seriously.
    I think we will actually end up having a major second wave next year...
    The only places not having second waves are likes of Sweden which achieved herd immunity/exposure. All the countries that did what we did are experiencing second waves, only thing saving us at moment from it is essentially our iron curtain closed border, eventually we have to reopen that...
    What’s really saved us is NZ’s lovely winter sunshine and easy access to clean outdoor air and a massive lack of public transport systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    I think we will actually end up having a major second wave next year...
    The only places not having second waves are likes of Sweden which achieved herd immunity/exposure. All the countries that did what we did are experiencing second waves, only thing saving us at moment from it is essentially our iron curtain closed border, eventually we have to reopen that...
    What’s really saved us is NZ’s lovely winter sunshine and easy access to clean outdoor air and a massive lack of public transport systems.
    Don't you mean third? We have already had number two. What kindy did you go to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    The only places not having second waves are likes of Sweden which achieved herd immunity/exposure.
    Your idea is based on a false premise. Sweden did not achieve herd immunity and neither have any of the other countries that tried it.
    Sweden's top health advisor has admitted he was mistaken to try for herd immunity.

    https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...-herd-immunity


    In the US, as they head into winter, there is currently concern among health professionals about the flu. Patients with both viruses at the same time will not have a great prognosis. We were fortunate that when the flu season would have normally got underway here we were locked down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    I think we will actually end up having a major second wave next year...
    The only places not having second waves are likes of Sweden which achieved herd immunity/exposure. All the countries that did what we did are experiencing second waves, only thing saving us at moment from it is essentially our iron curtain closed border, eventually we have to reopen that...
    What’s really saved us is NZ’s lovely winter sunshine and easy access to clean outdoor air and a massive lack of public transport systems.
    No it didn't. Where do you get your information? The 'school of hopefully outcomes and willful ignorance of non affirmative data?'



    "It is clear that not only are the rates of viral infection, hospitalization and mortality [per million population] much higher than those seen in neighboring Scandinavian countries, but also that the time-course of the epidemic in Sweden is different, with continued persistence of higher infection and mortality well beyond the few critical weeks period seen in Denmark, Finland and Norway," said researcher Dr. David Goldsmith, a retired physician in London

    Experience suggests that severely infected COVID-19 patients acquire antibodies immediately and during early recovery, but antibodies are much less common in only mildly ill or asymptomatic patients. This means they are likely not immune, and can't prevent the spread of the virus, the study noted. This is central to the concept of herd immunity.
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    There have been several reports on social media, (and no I'm not your social secretary), concerning Trumpist idiots who arrive at hospital infected with COVID but who refuse to wear masks. They're sick, but they know it's a hoax. Trump told them.

    In some instances medical staff have to take time out from more deserving cases to try and talk them around. They are infectious and pose a risk to everybody. In the case of the hospital I was reading about last night, three of these idiots have died of their hoax.

    It might be possible to ameliorate the situation by having a three strikes rule at the ambulance and the hospital door. If having been asked three times they refuse to put a mask on that's it. No entry.

    Of course they'd need a law change, but they'd never get that with the inbred fuckwits they've got running so many states.

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    Over one million deaths from COVID world wide.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...n-rate-slowing
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    The virus is not harmless, and the risk is certainly not to be scoffed at. That said, by itself it's about as dangerous as one of the nastier variations (for example, the 1968 Hong Kong H3N2 influenza virus which killed 4 million worldwide) of the annual ‘flu virus; and the usual flu killed 500 Kiwis in 2019. Not worth the death and disease that's going to follow, inevitably, from crashing economies and vastly increasing unemployment: unwanted job loss is associated with a 75% percent increase in the probability of death – the equivalent of adding 10 years to a person’s age

    What ought to be have been made clear to us all ever since April-May is that the most at risk are those over 70 with severe pre-existing conditions - and so we should do what society has always done with epidemics down the ages because that principle hasn't changed: Quarantine (and care for) the Infected, Isolate (and support and visit ) the Vulnerable, Wash our Hands, Stay Home if Sick, and otherwise Carry On.

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